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Old July 13th, 2004, 01:31 AM

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Default I ALWAYS loose.... I need advice and have MANY questions heh!

I ALWAYS loose.... any advice?


A quick preface.... I bought my copy of ominions 2 from a used games bin at an electronic botique, just the cd.... no manual. I looked at the walkthrough and read the FAQ on the website which helped alot but still missing some info i'm sure. So a quick question... what determines how much resources for making units other then gold a province produces other then your fortress type?

I like to play ermor(sp?), and I am a HUGE fan of the 110 lich so I always use that. I give em 4 astral and 7 or 8 death magic, castle and as high domain as I can get, offhand I think its 4 or 6. I always disable the three races which can go over water.On turn 1 I have my lich research enchantment, I recruit one of the 340 mage/priests(always forget the name) and enough of the valite(sp?)-the cheapest infantry to fill up the centurion the game starts with.

I make the centurion a prophet.

Turn two I send my lich off... a few quick notes on my lich. I think he already qualifies as the new overgod... I always send him to deathmatch when it comes up, of the 25 or so I've done, hes lost 2.... on the famous board he usually has more kills alone then the grand sum of ALL other units, combined.

After the first death match is there any reason to go again? Whats the real benifit of being on the fame board? I have my 340 gold mage/priest(always forget the name... sorry) finish researching enchantment. I have my prophet centurion reanimate long dead so as to not drain population. ANY time any undead producing unit is idle I have them produce long dead so as to not drain the population and get a few extra units.

My primary goal is to make a border.... any kind of border to make a bottleneck, if I see physical barriers I fight my way to them then fight to capture the border around them from the neutral territories. My primary path usually turns out to be a circle or elipse around the center city but not always...


My lich goes off doing his own thing, he goes to every neutral provence where domain is positive and just steam rolls over all opposition.

As for other Groups..... I send out centurions along with the cheapest infantry... another side note, yes there are quite a few heh .

Is anything more exspensive then the cheapest infantry cost effective for the ermor? The best infantry cost about 3x as much and are twice as effective.... roughly.

I have my group leaders always hold behind troops. I comprise my Groups of one centurion and as many valites as I can fit, sometimes a flag holder or two but usually not. I line them up infront of the center, to the right.

In the begining when its only the lich, the centurion prophet and the 340 mage/priest, the lich is still going and just terrorizing, the centurion and priest conquer as they can and stop at every province they do for one turn to raise souless if there are corpses or long dead if there are not so as to not drain the population.

Another sidenote... how does raising undead work? Gouls subtract fromt he population, so do souless, long dead do not-long dead seem to be the worst type of the 3 however. It seems the number of souless is directly proportional to their unholy priest strength or their strength in death magic.... do you raise more souless if there corpses, what about gouls? How many gouls/souless do you make compared to
your dark priest/death magic skill? I ALWAYS use my undead as fodder, putting them in one big lump to the far more right in the center. I can usually keep my mundane soldier casualties VERY low though often my undead get massacred. This gets my volites trained pretty damn well.... they live a very long time and fight many battles.


So I try to get a border.... as this happens I make more 340 mage/priests and centurions and fill the centurions with volites.

If I can I build forts on the border as I can....

Lets fast foward!


If I get a good border and luck out with natural barriers I get a couple of bottlenecks and prosper putting a fortress in every city, YEY! I place 340 priests on the border and have them raising massive numbers of long dead. At this point I like to change my group composition. Instead of a centurion and make volites I put a centurion 12 volites, and 12 archers from conquered provinces. I have several 340 mage/priests in my home city and have em researching.

THIS I have managed to get very stable several times, even taking about 1/5'th of the map behind my massive fortifications twice-the problem.... the moment I step out I encounter g-d only knows how many units...... they toss armies of 100-200 people at my strong points, plow over them then just destroy me.

Any advice?

Quick questions.....

Any benifit to placing a temple besides the units it can produce and domain bonus? Besides a few spells and my immortal god ressurecting in it, how exactly DOES domain help?

One thing I know is a problem but I dont know how to fix... orders! I usually leave most of my units orderless! When I DO order them they usually get massacred. I carefully position my troops... I order archers to fire, I order my undead to attack closest, I order my commanders to hold back or cast spells, my mundane troops however usually have no orders.... any thoughts? Also I never use calvalry.... I never seem to get provinces with good resource #'s and having calvalry so I dont recruit em.

Any answers to my many many questions heh?

I REALLY enjoy dominions 2... its addicting and reall fun, I just suck at it heh .

[ July 13, 2004, 00:55: Message edited by: Lach ]
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