I hope they are coming in a patch

[matt2000]

Hi im matt2000 i just recieved my copy of SE4 but I am rather dissapointed at the fact that about 40% of the promised game is missing.

But as long as I see them in a patch soon i'll be happy I know how much of a rush you game developers are to get stuff done on time and thanx for getting it out but here's the stuff that was missing in my game:

1) There were supposed to be over 500 components included: There are currently 263 in my game.

2) There was supposed to be a "Drone" class ship included in the game but it wasn't in my game

So im wondering when the patch will be coming out.

[WendellM]

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1) There were supposed to be over 500 components included: There are currently 263 in my game.

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I'm not sure why Shrapnel's SE4 section says "500+ components, and 300+ facilities" since Malfador's SE4 section says "500+ components and facilities." Anyway, doing a find operation in Components.txt finds 458. A similar check of Facility.txt finds 122, for a total of 580 (so at least Malfador's promise was met).

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2) There was supposed to be a "Drone" class ship included in the game but it wasn't in my game

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Oddly, it's the other way for drones. Shrapnel's section doesn't mention them, but Malfador's does.

[Instar]

I can tell you that there are more components and facilities coming your way!

[Danny]

Are you counting Crystal, Organic, Religious, Physic, and all the other speacial ability componets?

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I AM Canadian.

[WendellM]

Danny asked

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Are you counting Crystal, Organic, Religious, Physic, and all the other speacial ability componets?

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That's probably why matt2000 came up with a lower total. All special components seem to be in the Components.txt file and are included in my total.

Instar,

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I can tell you that there are more components and facilities coming your way!

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Good news. Of course, you can always add more of your own if there's not enough variety (hard to believe!), or simplify things if you don't like so many choices. This is the way strategy/4X games should be.

[matt2000]

Just about to post a big long message, then decided to check my /pictures directory.

apparently although there are only 272 picutres in there, only 102 of them are accessable in my game...?


For some reason they do not show up when i go to build ship/planet...etc.


???

[matt2000]

BTW when you set tech level to "high" does that enable ALL of the stuff or do you still have to reasearch some....

[matt2000]

Ok found the problem....


in the .TXT file it does not include components:

008 (Appears to be big green engine)
029 (Some kind of armor)
032 (Some kind of sheild generator)
036 (Some kind of super resupplier)
050 (Large Crew Quarters)
051 (Large Crew Quarters)
074 (Big red engine)
075 (Grey armor)
076 (Armor with a sheild gen underneath)
077 (Armor with a phased sheild gen under)
078 (Weirdo gun similiar to ground cannon)
079 (Big grey thingie w/ blue ring)
080 (Red tube with three grey rings)
081 (Sorta same as 79 but with green ring)
087 (Super hyper sheild generator)
097 (Holy ****... Mega Armor....)
099 (WHOO! Four capital missle launcher)
101 (Big purple sheild gen)
102 (081 on steriods)
116 (Big green tree-shaped gun with metal ring)
118 (Big torquose blue oval with a gun popping out of side)
119 (Looks like a pyramid)
120 (5 repair bays hanging off of a big drill)
121 (Yeesh! A tiny sheild generator inside lotsa big grey boxes)
123 (Big cockpit that looks like a shuttlecraft)
124 (Looks like a teleporter)
125 (Looks like a big golden gun)
126 (Mine sweeper on steriods)
130 (Ever watched stargate SG1?)
131 (Fighter Version of comp 008)
136 (Fighter Version of red engine)
137 (One helluva lot of 079's)
138 (Lots of 080's)
144 (Small Wave Motion Gun)
145 (Small Anti Weapon Weapon)
146 (Small ionic disperser)
147 (Small repulser beam)
148 (Small tractor beam)
150 (Small wormhole gun)
155 (Small PD cannon)
158 (Small YELLOW torpedos)
159 (Small PLASMA missles)
160 (Small Plague Bombs)
161 (Small ionic disperser missles)
163 (Small neutron bombs)
164 (Small radiation bombs)
165 (...Can only be described as space toaster.
168 (Looks like a metal turkey baster)
170 (Looks like a duracell batterie painted red)
171 (Looks like an old fasioned wagon wheel w/ spokes)
172 (Cream ball with three wires and two rings around it)
177 (Looks like a round cylinder with blue rings all around it)
179 (Space tic tac toe)
180 (looks like a trash can with a yellow thingie on top)
184 (Looks like a three way waffke iron with a red dot in the middle)
186 (Looks like a big ol tube with purple rings going horazontally)
187 (186 with a twin)
192 (More mega armor... looks similiar to stealth armor.)
193 (Checker board armor)
194 (GOOD GREIF! the checkerboard with chess peices on it! See 193.)
196 (Another super sheild generator)
197 (A rusty Version of 196)
200 (Looks like three dark blue rings and a lot of gold rings with a bright green box in the center
201 (200 with less dark blue and more gold)
204 (Similiar to 201)
205 (Lotsa gold rings that make a big tunnel)
206 (Dark upside down pyramids)
207 (Cloaking device on steriods)
208 (Ooooo... Shiney. Big shiney ball.)
209 (The ball got rusty.)
210 (The ball had a baby red ball inside.)
217 (Gold ball inside a dark teal cage)
218 (217 seen from top)
219 (Lotsa satellite dishes)
220 (Scanner Jammer on steriods)
221 (Looks like a radar screen with a lot of grids and lines)
222 (Super scanner... looks like the lightning antenna on yer roof)
223 (Multiplix tracking with a lightning rod)
224 (Big blue bubble attached to a big golden rod with a picture of a nebulae inside.
225 (AHHH!!! Looks like a ship blew up big time)
227 (Small Version of null space cannon)
228 (Lotsa satellite dishes coming around a big red ball
229 (Cant even start to describe this...)
230 (The techtonic bomb on steriods)
231 (Pretty much 229 with different colors.)
232 (The anti-sun torpedo on steroids)
233 (Warp tunnel)
234 (Warp sphere)
235 (Tractor & Repulser beams come together)
236 (See 235: Steriods.)
240 (Looks like a hoarde of solar panels)
244 (See 236 and give in an emnina)
246 (Big spike)
247 (Phased sheild gen on steriods)
248 (Big tsunami thingie)
249 (Looks like the toaster but bigger)
250 (ton of aux. control panels.
251 (same as 250 but with a viewscreen)
252 (two bridges and 3 aux. control panels)
253 (BIG red ball with bars)
254 (Purplish-red torpedo)
255 (Small Version of 254)
259 (Organic component, apparently with 5 teeth, army colored.)
261 (Yellow pyramid weapon)
262 (Same as 261 but with a diff shape/color)
263 (Same as high energy crystal magnifier weapon but different shape/color: blue)
266 (Small space toaster)
267 (Messed up organic component: green with yellow dots)
268 (Organic component: Red egg with claws)

So if someone could please send me a fixed Version of the (data file) including these components.

Or if noone recognizes these... ... methinks malfador (you guys rock ) need to send out a bug fix.

Feel free to check yer SEIV/PICTURES/COMPONENTS directory and check out all the items i have just listed.

Apparently the same thing goes for facilities. (Wont be listing these tho just check em out for yerself)


PLZ HELP PEOPLE!


I wanna experience all of the neato stuff ok plz plz plz plz plz help me out here.


email addy is: matt52@jps.net plz send me the correct .TXT file that goes in the data directory.

[WendellM]

Matt,

I believe that the unused art is just that, and doesn't indicate that anything is missing from your .txt files. It could be stuff they ran out of time to do, it could be items planned for the future, it could be so that players have new art to use for their own mods, or it could just be leftover stuff. Good work finding and describing all that (a lot of file-opening and typing ).

However, while there's one picture for each family of component, there are often several components within a family. For example, there's only one picture for Emissive Armor, but there are three Emissive Armor components: Emissive Armor I, Emissive Armor II, and Emissive Armor III (and all six Meson BLaster components share a single picture). The Roman numerals are just placed on top of the one picture. So, ~100 pictures can, and do, represent ~450 components.

As for starting with High Technology, no, that doesn't guarantee that you'll start with everything. There are still special techs that depend on racial characteristics (such as Crystallurgy for Crystalline Armor) or that must be found (such as Massive Shield Depleters). If you want to see all facilities and components, set up a new game and turn on "Players can see complete tech tree" under Game Settings. Once the game starts, they'll all appear under Research/Tech Tree/Tech Levels, with gray items being those you can't currently build. A rough count of all the components and facilities shown there comes to approximately 560, which matches well with results of doing a Find in the two .txt files (580). To be able to build everything, you can create a race with those special abilities, and then find the ones that must be found.

So, you can relax. I don't think you're missing any components or facilities; I think it's just a combination of unused art and not seeing the whole tech tree that makes it appear so.

Wendell

[matt2000]

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/me is numbnut then.