Enterprise on VHS

[Atrocities]

It had not occured to me that Enterprise would already be out on VHS, but it is. http://www.blackstar.co.uk/video/item/7000000070321

I have not yet checked Amazon to if they sell it yet, but if they oh boy. :|

The series is ok, better than Voyager was, but for some reason it just seems dule. Good acting, but just dule. Why is that?

[tesco samoa]

maybe because you have seen most of the stories in the previous shows.

I really wish that they would take the star trek series and make many many complex story arcs. The 40 minute story does not cut it any more. They are rather boring. Now if a story streched for 5 years ( and all the sub plots ) Look at soaps THey have stories that go on for 20 years. Why does the sci-fi fan have to suffer. Were geeks , nerds, and intelligent. Why not a series that reflects the audience who watches these shows.

Not only do you see it from the federation point of view but from the other empires point of view. ANd the story evolves

Sure it would be complex sure you would have to watch every show. But it would be enjoyable. It is what star trek lacks.

[Loser]

Originally posted by tesco samoa:
It is what star trek lacks.

*cough, cough* B5 *cough, cough*

[Atrocities]

This new story arc they are on I just don't buy at all. I mean its lame, its a rip off of Starblazers/and that B5 spin off.

There was nothing to draw me into the story at all. A one hour premier????? Oh come on!

The Space Soldiers to the rescue. I have nothing vested in these guys, and I know from week to week they are just going to hire some extras to play them.

I once read an article about voyager where someone had gone through and counted all the differant crew memebers seen over the 7 years of the show and the total was like somewhere near 300. The ship only had a crew of about 150 people.

I agree that continuity and long, deeply involving story lines are the best bet for a show now a days. Just look at 24.

The show is boring, dule, lack luster, uninteresting, slow, predictable, sleeply, etc.

And the obvious sex ploys to get male views is so ****ing irratating that its insulting at best. I mean sure T'Pal, as a character is an attractive one, but focusing on her as a sex object is just a sell out and a true misuse of the character in general.

They dumped the seven of nine character into Voyager because the Kes character was not hot enough. Because that worked, and it drew in the 14 to 36 year old male viewers, they tried it again. (Um Jerry Ryan is married to Brandon Braga so all you guys out there that want to impress her with your Trek knowledge and your basement apartment in mommies house should just get a real place of your own and move on.)

The major problem with Enterprise is that the producers don't think we are smart enough to warrent intelligent shows. This was evident in Voyager.

DS9, although dull for the first three years, really hit its stride with the Dominion War. DS9 was very character driven with brillant performances and excellent presentation of drama and action.

Enterprise is well acted, semi well written, but lacks mojo. I am not concerned about the characters, the ship, which I think looks ugly, or the story lines.

Like with Voyager, Enterprise will go for the cheep Ratings, and seldom possess the gripping story lines needed to make it a bonafide hit.

[deccan]

I think the big problem with Trek is general is that they try to get everything back to the status quo at the end of every story. If they were just willing to make big, sweeping and permanant changes to things, then stories would be a lot more meaningful and interesting.

[Fyron]

Hence B5.

[narf poit chez BOOM]

what i want to see is a science fiction show that tries to stay as close to real science as possible. i wouldn't object to some sort of work-around for ftl, as long as it could be justified that it's 'possible', but i want to see: near C weapons, no 'magic' shield's, if there there i want a good science explantion, acceleration, deceleration, no ships tilting to turn and sliding in fighter fights. i want magnetic cannons and anti-proton's.

if your going to make up the science for a show, i don't object as long as you acknowledge that you made it up. but i would like to see something mostly realistic for a change.

see, the network's objection seems to me that nobody would understand all this complex science stuff, but nobody understands how phasers work and at least with real science there's something to understand. and the people who don't understand can still watch the original storylines, the realistic characters and the original plot.

ah, well, i can always read a book.

[Fyron]

Hence, B5.

[narf poit chez BOOM]

well, i'm not sure about some of the science. it was a semi-mystical show. in one show, i'm told, though, the fighter's did slide. and the ships did have ion cannons, which, although i don't remember the explantion, i'm pretty sure there scientific.

but, storylines plot and characters, oh my.

[Fyron]

Most of the tech in B5 is realistically plausible (save jump gates and hyperspace stuff ). There are deviations ofc, but those are a minimum (esp. for the non-Ancient races).

And they very often did sliding and such in fighters.