idea about newbie guide . plz share your opinions

Gandalf Parker · #1 July 29th, 2004, 02:50 PM

well if it feels like a question that was thoroughly answered already we might just use the search button and post a link to the previous conversation. But thats OK. It will still make a nice one-stop shopping thread for newbie questions. If its better than others that have been done then Im sure it will get posted and linked. There is always room for a good editor (as oppossed to a good writer) to make a better FAQ file.

[ July 29, 2004, 13:51: Message edited by: Gandalf Parker ]

Boron · #2 July 29th, 2004, 03:15 PM

i want to focus on some things which are still undocumented .
unfortunately sunrays really excellent site is down and i have only downloaded so far the downloadable things and not copied the .html guides so far so perhaps much is already answered there .

i will try to give a brief and good understandable overview with some examples ( like in the dominion guide how dominion works ) about combat .
e.g. the fire spells do 14 + 2 per level above damage .
area of 1 = ....
than �what i miss so far :
a formula how many maenads you get depending on the turmoil scale ...
stealth detection
pan cw reanimation / freespawn rates and so on

about half of the questions are now almost answered because i posted them in previous threads and got good answers

i will try to include a small sc / anti sc guide too that ppl get an impression whats important

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it took me e.g. almost 2 months until finding out how cool a sc pretender really is .
first weeks in sp i used rainbow pretenders .
tried once a combat pretender but had not much knowledge of combat spells .
i once used a vq then because i read at the forum how good she is but i only gave her some more death + blood lol and was unimpressed ^^.

because sp is so different from mp and a mp game takes about at least 2 months if nobody tells you in your first mp game you will most likely take a totally crap pretender than after 2 months be wiped out .
then you try your first sc pretender but because sp is not so good for testing it ( only for indy conquering ) your first build is still not so good and so i think most likely you find your first good sc pretender only in your 3rd mp game after 6 month .

so i will try to declare why some key concepts are so important .
like in the beginning i thought : woah ulm has 20 / 23 protection units they rock .
then i built them and they sucked against in my newbish eyes much weaker units .
now i understand because of their inferior attack/def Ratings + high encumberance .

and so on hehe .

hopefully i cover much .
i will include the formulas for blood hunt etc too in a legend .

so i want to make a faq , some charts / legends for formulas and so on
and a small guide on some topics

liga · #3 July 29th, 2004, 03:27 PM

Hi Boron,

that's a really good Idea ... and very close to what I was aiming to creating my Manual Addenda (just covering all the things are not well covered in the rules) .. I think it could be good/usefull for you to start a new project but I think it could be better to join our projects making a really good newbie guide.

I suggest you to read the Manual Addenda (it has most of the answer from this forum) and then look if something usefull for you could be there.

I have kept out details on the single spells (since Zen is writing a reference about that) and most of the things concerning strategies (SC and so on).

I think to have included all the formulas I was able to find on the net.

I have kept the oringal post in the guide, but it could eb nice to use the informations in the Posts to write more readable chapter.

I have also not included the Ceremony guide on dominions on my Manula Addenda becouse I think it is a little jewel and there is no need to integrate.

Anywya, let me know any kind of help/collaboration you need!

good luck
Liga

Boron · #4 July 29th, 2004, 03:37 PM

thnx liga

your manual addendum is great

so are zens miqr and scqr .

i have heard of zens plans . but he announced them already 2 months ago when i got dominions and joined the forum .
i have seen very little postings from zen on the board since about 1 month .
sure his guides will be great

perhaps you can share insight and say me when zen thinks he publishes his new spell guide and other things he plans

if this is in the next 2 weeks than my plan is most likely obsolete . but i guess it takes far longer so my idea was to provide a quick interim solution for the e.g. next 2 months until zens new puplications show up

furthermore if you have a beta and want feedback i would read it and then ask you questions .
i am at the moment still kind of newbie but on the advance to better understanding and hopefully an in future quite competetive player on the mosehansen games

so i could ihmo well evaluate if it is suited for newbies and with my starting insight ask advanced questions too .

liga · #5 July 29th, 2004, 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Boron:

i have heard of zens plans . but he announced them already 2 months ago when i got dominions and joined the forum .

He told on the forum that was close to be finished ... waiting just a sort of "suprvisor" approval ... anyway I think you have really a lot of things to work on not yet covered by any docs on the net (stealth, sc guide, ...).
Let me know how I could help you in realizing this guide ...

bye bye
Liga

Boron · #6 July 29th, 2004, 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by liga:

quote:
Originally posted by Boron:

i have heard of zens plans . but he announced them already 2 months ago when i got dominions and joined the forum .

He told on the forum that was close to be finished ... waiting just a sort of "suprvisor" approval ... anyway I think you have really a lot of things to work on not yet covered by any docs on the net (stealth, sc guide, ...).
Let me know how I could help you in realizing this guide ...

bye bye
Liga

tell me which kind of guide i should try to provide . than i will try to write one and you could read it and give me your opinion

Boron · #7 July 29th, 2004, 09:23 PM

two small questions to your manual addendum :

number one :
7.2. expierience :

All units, except mindless ones, get:

1 exp per turn
+1 exp for participating in a battle
+3 exp for winning a battle
+1 exp for hitting enemy

is that really for hitting ? i miss xp for killing something if that is true .

number two :

according to the expierience chart you get -1 encumberance as a bonus for reaching xp lvl 4 .

a moloch e.g. has base encumberance 1 .
does that mean that he gets + 1 reinvigoration or does base encumberance drop to 0 and he can't fatigue in melee like vq / pod etc. ?

Arryn · #8 July 29th, 2004, 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Boron:
is that really for hitting ?

Yes. A unit can get quite a lot of experience in just one battle, if it does a lot of fighting (scoring hits).

Boron · #9 July 29th, 2004, 09:27 PM

chapter 8.4.4. blood hunt :

you should add that SDR counts +1 blood level for blood hunting purposes since 2.12 .

You can't blood hunt in sea provinces, I think.

afaik it is now a fact that you can't blood hunt in sea provinces . so the i think is no longer needed

Boron · #10 July 29th, 2004, 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Arryn:

quote:
Originally posted by Boron:
is that really for hitting ?

Yes. A unit can get quite a lot of experience in just one battle, if it does a lot of fighting (scoring hits).

strange .
in every rpg i know you only get xp for KILLING units not hitting them .
just look at diablo 2 e.g.
if you hit baal 1 million times with fists for fun but don't kill him you still get no exp.

so really amazed that dominions should be the only fantasy game so far where this is not the case .
afaik no other fantasy game rewards you for just hitting someone and not killing him.
seems like a logical bug

did the developers say that or is there perhaps any kind of misunderstanding fault in it ?

really amazed if this is really true