Does ancient race take a little fun out of the game?

[Leoric]

I like to explore and not knowing what´s in the next system is fun.

Once you have entered a partnership treaty with an ancient race, you´re stuck with his ability.

I have a suggestion:

How about 4 different levels of ancient?

Level 1: (500 racial points) All adjacent systems.

Level 2: (1000 racial points) All adjucent systems + a radius of 4 systems

Level 3: (1500 racial points) All adjucent systems + a radius of 9 systems

Level 4: (2000 racial points) All systems.

What will we gain from this:

+ It will cost you more to have the whole galaxy. Would it be worth spending your racial points on a 2000 points ability to get it?

+ More fun, but you still get an advantage by spending 500 points.

+ 1000 racial points is alot, and you may not want to give 1000 racial points to your ally.

+ I won´t get the whole galaxy, when I enter a partnership treaty with an ancient.

- I can´t think of any, maybe you do?

Leoric

[Nitram Draw]

I've never gotten a partnership treaty with an ancient race but it sounds like if you do you get a 1500 point trait for free. Doesn't seem fair but hey, who am I to talk about fair. I need all the help I can get sometimes.

[Trachmyr]

But ancient race does not tell you what colonies are in the system... and I don't think partnerships with ancient races would do anything... you only share your "line of sight" not your exploration. Being an ancient race just means that the entire galaxy is explored BEFORE and colonies were settled (you will not see homeworlds either).

[Oggy ben Doggy]

I got a treaty with an ancient race and poof, the whole galaxy was explored for me. I think it was a partnership

[Leoric]

I like to discover every system myself.

I like it that way. It´s like when you played this game for the first time not knowing what to research and you learned by doing.

Another thing: If I picked Ancient, I would not ever enter a partnership with another race. It would be like throwing away your racial points.

[Trachmyr]

Well I stand corrected... perhaps we should write MM about changing this so partnerships don't confer the "exploration" bonus of Ancient empires.