Small Shield Depleters = Uber Troop Weapon

Ed Kolis · #1 December 16th, 2003, 03:39 PM

I was going to email this to Aaron but I thought I'd post it here first to see what reaction I got...

Small Shield Depleters appear to be the uber-weapon for troops, surpassing even ground cannons - since damage types don't matter, they do massive damage to all enemy troops, and they only take up 2kT and are cheaper than ground cannons! So how about making small shield depleters mountable only on fighters?

oleg · #2 December 16th, 2003, 04:10 PM

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Originally posted by Ed Kolis:
I was going to email this to Aaron but I thought I'd post it here first to see what reaction I got...

Small Shield Depleters appear to be the uber-weapon for troops, surpassing even ground cannons - since damage types don't matter, they do massive damage to all enemy troops, and they only take up 2kT and are cheaper than ground cannons! So how about making small shield depleters mountable only on fighters?

easy

simply edit components.tct file and set vhicle type := fighters only for small SD.

geoschmo · #3 December 16th, 2003, 04:42 PM

Um, wasn't that fixed with 1.84?

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Version 1.79:
2. Fixed - Shield Depeleters will now work properly against units.

Asmala · #4 December 16th, 2003, 05:37 PM

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Originally posted by geoschmo:
Um, wasn't that fixed with 1.84?

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Version 1.79:
2. Fixed - Shield Depeleters will now work properly against units.

Work properly == do no damage?

geoschmo · #5 December 16th, 2003, 05:42 PM

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Originally posted by Asmala:
Work properly == do no damage?

It would help me understand you if you'd use complete sentances.

As I understand it, the problem originally was shield depleters used against units would do normal damage. And under those circumstances Ed would be right, the small shield depleters would rock as troop weapons. But I believe that with 1.84 that was fixed so shield depleters fired against units only deplete the shields instead of doing normal damage.

Although I could be incorrect. Ed, have you tested this to see if it still does what you are saying?

Geoschmo

Asmala · #6 December 16th, 2003, 05:55 PM

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Originally posted by geoschmo:

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Originally posted by Asmala:
Work properly == do no damage?

It would help me understand you if you'd use complete sentances.

Hmm, that was indeed quite unclear sentence.

I meant shields are counted as hit points for units, so how the shield depleter works then? Or do troops work differently than other units?

Fyron · #7 December 16th, 2003, 06:14 PM

Geo, he is talking about in troop combat, not any other units. Ground combat follows its own set of rules that are wholely separate from those of regular combat.

Asmala · #8 December 16th, 2003, 06:48 PM

How PPB and SD work against fighters/units/drones/weapon platforms? Geoschmo said SD works normally (i.e. depletes shields), but I thought shield points for units are added to their HPs. Is it changed?

Taera · #9 December 17th, 2003, 02:04 AM

i guess that they're split into Groups..

parabolize · #10 December 17th, 2003, 02:41 AM

correct me if i am wrong but didnt all units turn shields into armor befor 1.78 and after 1.78 they had real shields (i know sats make shield picture when hit).