Enter Site to Summon.....

SurvivalistMerc · #1 November 21st, 2003, 06:29 PM

Just found a devil's den. My first ever "found" blood site.

It says enter to summon a devil. So...I'm entering.

But I don't have any blood slaves with me, and my only blood mage is the pretender, who doesn't have much of an army with him at the moment....

So...is he going to get attacked or something? Or will he not get anything since he doesn't have the blood slaves?

That thing increases unrest by 15, and the province has a 300-some unrest at present. So I think this would be a great place to hunt blood slaves as it appears the populace is rather useless.

ywl · #2 November 21st, 2003, 06:46 PM

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Originally posted by SurvivalistMerc:
Just found a devil's den. My first ever "found" blood site.

It says enter to summon a devil. So...I'm entering.

But I don't have any blood slaves with me, and my only blood mage is the pretender, who doesn't have much of an army with him at the moment....

So...is he going to get attacked or something? Or will he not get anything since he doesn't have the blood slaves?

That thing increases unrest by 15, and the province has a 300-some unrest at present. So I think this would be a great place to hunt blood slaves as it appears the populace is rather useless.

Devil's Den!! Get a blood mage to enter it and get a *free* devil every turn. It's one of the best sites in the game.

Ok, I'm calmer now. You don't need any Blood Slave and you won't get attacked unless something majored changed from Dom 1.

I think that if the place has too much unrest, it'll be hard to get bloodslave.

Taqwus · #3 November 21st, 2003, 07:07 PM

Yeah, unrest interferes with blood slave hunting, so you'd need to patrol extra-heavy to harvest from there.
While Dom II clearly does allow for the risk of being attacked because of entering a magical site, the only site I'm aware of with that property is R'lyeh's Void Gate. The other "enter to summon Foo" sites tend to be safe.

SurvivalistMerc · #4 November 21st, 2003, 07:23 PM

Thanks for the advice.

Just to clarify a bit on constructs and summons....

These have no upkeep requirement, right? I have previously used these in moderation, but I think I like the mid tier so much that I'm going to concentrate on summons for a while.

SurvivalistMerc · #5 November 21st, 2003, 07:27 PM

I just wish I had another blood mage! Right now only my pretender has blood magic. And he's a sage. My nation is ulmand needs his research ability.

Are we talking real devils here, or mostly those little imps? Any chance of a highly powerful one? I hope it isn't influenced by luck (though that would be very balancing) because I have unluck 3!

Taqwus · #6 November 21st, 2003, 07:27 PM

Some summons do actually have upkeep, I think; not all. Undead generally don't, but I think trolls -- at least Sea Trolls, and probably the others -- do.

Edit: Addendum. The devils you'll get are the basic devils; larger than imps, they fly, stronger than your normal human, they radiate fire and all that, and wield pitchforks. They're not exactly awe-inspiring, but they're nice to have. Luck won't matter, it's a guaranteed summons so long as you have a blood mage entering the site.

[ November 21, 2003, 17:32: Message edited by: Taqwus ]

Joonie73 · #7 November 21st, 2003, 07:45 PM

How can you check for a unit's upkeep?

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Originally posted by Taqwus:
Some summons do actually have upkeep, I think; not all. Undead generally don't, but I think trolls -- at least Sea Trolls, and probably the others -- do.

Edit: Addendum. The devils you'll get are the basic devils; larger than imps, they fly, stronger than your normal human, they radiate fire and all that, and wield pitchforks. They're not exactly awe-inspiring, but they're nice to have. Luck won't matter, it's a guaranteed summons so long as you have a blood mage entering the site.

Taqwus · #8 November 21st, 2003, 07:51 PM

As far as I know, you can't yet. I only realized that troll summons might have upkeep when in a Dom I game my upkeep jumped up in response to summons, even when I'd not recruited any additional "normal" troops.

Kristoffer O · #9 November 22nd, 2003, 10:32 AM

Trolls likes gold. That is common knowledge.

Magical beings and undead do not cost upkeep IIRC. There is currently no way to tell, but I believe that trolls (ans seatrolls) are the only ones.

Things that you can buy in sites do cost upkeep as upkeep is 1/15 of their initial cost.

Things that you summon by entering a site costs 0.

Wendigo · #10 November 22nd, 2003, 11:52 AM

Trolls, Sea trolls, draconians, black hawks, cross breeding critters require upkeep, do not remember any others right now.