company of heroes

[militarist]

I've had an event, company of heroes, and playing blood nation there,it's MP game. What would more reasonable approach to get these heroes - if to choose between hellbind heart with no penetration items (or +2 penetration items) and succubuses? And why?

[lch]

I assume that you are talking about Bogus and his men?

[Rookierookie]

It is tough to hellbind Bogus' company because the Dark Knight will hit your commander at turn 1.

[Gandalf Parker]

By any chance can you do both?

The BEST I have found is to mix assassin or seducer, with either Charm or Hellbind.
That way you guarantee a one-on-one, but if the first action fails, you get another shot to try and snag them. Usually I can even get away with two charms or hellbinds, and then something more destructive for self preservation.

[Rookierookie]

Originally Posted by Gandalf Parker

By any chance can you do both?

The BEST I have found is to mix assassin or seducer, with either Charm or Hellbind.
That way you guarantee a one-on-one, but if the first action fails, you get another shot to try and snag them. Usually I can even get away with two charms or hellbinds, and then something more destructive for self preservation.

I thought about suggesting empowering a succubus to B2, but if you do that I think the converted hero will attack the province, resulting in likely death.

[militarist]

Ich, Yes, it' Bogus and Co.

Succubus will act, but I don't know what success rate I can expect for. Against Bogus heroes, if succubus will not be able to to seduce, I don't think he has a good chance of survival. And game has trade profibited, so getting a mage with alternative paths from Bogus company is really benefitial. so the goal is not to get rid of company of heroes, but to get them. So killing them is not the best idea.

The question is - I can either send several blood 3 mages for hellbinding (maybe with penetration+2 items, but it will not be easy for me to do them), or send succubus. I'm trying to ask - whet are succubuses chances on suduction of them, and how many casts of hellbind I should plan for each hero when planning amount of hellbinders?

[Fantomen]

Mass hellbind heart casters with penetration boosters and a bunch of bodyguards to protect against the dark knight. Use bodyguard that are tough but have bad offense, so they dont kill anyone.

Succubus is a bad idea I think, success rate is too low.

[Gandalf Parker]

But an empowered succubus might still be best. Give it a bunch of slaves then send it in scripted for hellbind, hellbind, (then something deadly depending on how you equip them)
It goes like this...
1) tries to seduce one of the commanders in the province
2) if the seduction fails then combat occurs but its still just the seducer, and the one commander. like an assassination
3) Hellbind (maybe wins)
4) hellbind (maybe wins)
5) if it gets this far then combat

IF the hellbind works, then another combat follows with the newly taken commander vs his old friends.

[militarist]

How would you estimate probability of succubus'es seduction success? 50% ? more? less?

[militarist]

The problem with Hellbind, is that those are not usuall indie commanders and can have high MR. The question how many hellbinds are needed to achieve reasonable chances to return from the battle not emptyhanded.