atmosphere / type of world handicap

trooper · #1 January 25th, 2003, 11:12 PM

I think that some races have a natural bonus due to their homeworld conditions. The couple no atmosphere/rock world gives the best chances to find suitable planetes (even if no atmosphere life form should be rare...) because of the moons. the worse couple is perhaps gas world or liquid world and no atmosphere...

The race I'm creating would come from a liquid world, with methane or hydrogen atmosphere. don't you think it's a hard start world for a game ?

Fyron · #2 January 25th, 2003, 11:15 PM

All planet atmospheres and types are mostly balanced. Rock and Ice are definitely equal in appearance for all atmospheres save None, which does get all the moons. But, None can't be used for Gas Giants, so that is balanced out.

The game places planets based on the entries in SectType.txt. The atmospheres and planet types are balanced in there, so they are balanced in-game.

[ January 25, 2003, 21:16: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]

Phoenix-D · #3 January 25th, 2003, 11:16 PM

The planets are distributed differently. Rock/none gets planets, sure, but a lot of them are small moons. And unlike any other atmophere, None races can't convert Gas Giants. In a long game that leaves them at a serious disadvantage.

Phoenix-D

trooper · #4 January 26th, 2003, 12:42 AM

Oups, I've forgotten that there were no liquid worlds in SE, thought I was was still playing MOO2...

So rock and Ice give the same chances, but gas can be terraformed. So it will be a rock/methane race (think that methane homeworlds are less common than oxygen or carbon dioxyde ones).

Andr�s · #5 January 26th, 2003, 07:26 AM

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Rock and Ice are definitely equal in appearance for...

Actually in the stock game ice planets are only slightly more common than gas giants and of the same size that rock ones, so being native of ice planets is a serious handicap.

Also rock-methane has a slight advantage over and ice-methane a slight disadvantage over other atmospheres.

I had made calculations of chances of appereance and planet sizes long ago, search for a thread called "are gas giants really an advantage"

I don't know if mods such as the FQM attempt improve that balance, by forcing some planets to be ice in the system files, or in case of the deluxe Version by adding more ice planets sector types.

Arkcon · #6 January 26th, 2003, 04:36 PM

Hey there, I tried to summarize Andres work in the Encyclopedia Malfadorica here:

I'm fighting a bad cold, so if it's not cohereant, someone please edit it. Or you could all take antihistamines and enjoy the world in 7 dimensions like I do.