Interesting behavior re: magic domain

[rabelais]

Under 2.12, I'm playing drain 3, have found a magic 3 province, which I have painstakingly kept at neutral domain.

The interesting thing is, my smiths get +3 research in the zone (i.e. 8+xp) and my sages get +0 (i.e. 7+xp)

As I said this is true at both negative and zero domain.

This seems precisely the opposite of what I thought was the expected behavior... with smiths immune to magic scale and others not.

I wasn't sure whether one was supposed to benefit from others magic domain (I thought so, but....) tho in the case of zero domain, surely I should be able to get the +3 in normal mages?

Any thoughts?

For obvious reasons... I haven't tried positive domain, since I'm not sure I could ever get it back to +3.

Does the "not other people's domain code" only click when it's positive or neurtal having been positive?

Hard to tell what the problem is....


Rabe of the Faulty Ivory Tower

[Norfleet]

Smiths are not immune to magic scale: If you actually took Magic with Ulm, they'd benefit from the magic scale. However, they are not HARMED by Drain scale.

As for why the sages don't benefit, well, that's just a mystery. I do recall you weren't supposed to benefit from the magic scale of somebody else's dominion, but I'm baffled as to why the smiths get it, but the sages don't.

[Nagot Gick Fel]

Mages aren't supposed to benefit from a magic scale dominion in a neutral or enemy dominion. I just ran a quick test with various mage types, and for some reason - probably an oversight in the code that makes them unaffected by drain wrt research -, Master Smiths are not subject to this rule.

[rabelais]

Originally posted by Nagot Gick Fel:
Mages aren't supposed to benefit from a magic scale dominion in a neutral or enemy dominion. I just ran a quick test with various mage types, and for some reason - probably an oversight in the code that makes them unaffected by drain wrt research -, Master Smiths are not subject to this rule.

It seems to me like denying benefits in *neutral* dominion is unnecessary and a little weirdly punitive. Is it intended?

i.e. if it goes neutral from positive dom for the occupier, are bonuses similarly lost?

This is hardly a game destroying edge, IMHO.

If someone is willing to go to the trouble (and believe me it is a *HUGE* pain in the butt) to
micromanage their dominion drawbacks, there should be some benefit. Particularly given that benefit will be available far less than 50% of the time, as enemy dominion creep upsets the neutrality, since one dares not overpush one's own.

After all you've purged the presence of the other pretender... you're just showing a certain mercy to the exceptional local ecology.


Rabe the Environmentally Sensitive

[ June 20, 2004, 23:53: Message edited by: rabelais ]

[Endoperez]

This could lead to abusing:
a) Stone Idols
b) Skeptics

[Saxon]

Rabe, do share some tips on how you managed the dominion so artfully to maintain this happy state? I suspect my love of Restless Worshippers may have blinded me of some of the more subtle mechanics in the game.

Saxon, the Uninspired and Unimaginative