Bladewind/Gift of Heaven/Falling Frost questions

[Corwin]

It's been a while since my Dom2 days, so I've partly forgoten few particular details- therefore I have few spell-related questions, which I hope somebody will be able to answer.

Remind me please - bladewind damage is condidered
to be "normal" type, not magical, correct?

If this is the case, then "Arrows Fend" spell should give 80% ptotection from damage done by Bladewind, correct? (IIRC "air shield" , which is basic spell that "arrows fend" cast on all ubits, only protects against nonemagical attacks.)

And what about "Gift From Heaven" - are they simply rocks or do the do magical daage as well?

Last question - do I remember correctly that "Falling Frost" damages units regardless of their cold resistance, unlike "falling fires", to which fire-resistant units are ummune? How effective are nummble units vs "Falling Frost"?

[Endoperez]

Check the manual. Blade Wind is indeed mundane damage, but Gifts from Heaven isn't. Falling Frost deals cold damage.

[Corwin]

Endoperez said:
Check the manual. Blade Wind is indeed mundane damage, but Gifts from Heaven isn't. Falling Frost deals cold damage.

So you are saying that Arrow Fend will give all your troops 80% protection against BladeWind, correct?

Also manual doesn't say anything about Falling Frost being negated by high defense, but ingame description implies it. Do you know any details?

[Endoperez]

Earthquake, on pg 245, has "Def" listed as a Special feature. There are only perhaps one spell which has the Def tag, and it isn't mentioned in the early descriptions of AP, AN, Mundane and other special properties. Some spells can be avoided with high def, and if Falling Frost's descriptions says defence helps, either the manual or the game should be updated.

[Corwin]

Endoperez said:
Earthquake, on pg 245, has "Def" listed as a Special feature. There are only perhaps one spell which has the Def tag, and it isn't mentioned in the early descriptions of AP, AN, Mundane and other special properties. Some spells can be avoided with high def, and if Falling Frost's descriptions says defence helps, either the manual or the game should be updated.

Thanks.

Yes, the question is "which one is wrong".


What about Arrow Fend? Does it really give 80% protection against Bladewind?

And talking about errors in manual - I always thought that Mistform is dispelled when the target is hit with the blow that does more than 25% of target's hitpoints or magical weapon. But the manual says it is just 25HP. Was I wrong or is manual wrong?

[Endoperez]

Re: Bladewind - I don't know. See the "Forum and manual interaction" thread.

Re: Mistform - I don't know, but if any creature with less than 25 hp has ever lost Mistform while fighting against normal units, it can't be 25 hp.

[mivayan]

Bladewind - Shields and etherealness helps, so air shield *probably* does. But needs to be tested to know.

Each of the 3 rocks from Gifts from heaven is AoE 1, which means it always hits unless specially specified. Manual doesn't say 'mundane', so ethereal doesn't help. Prot helps in theory (yay, only 125 in stead of 150 damage).

Falling frost - dunno how good defence is. Cold resistance helps against it but not against the evoc7, W2 spell Ice strike.

[UninspiredName]

In the massive battles where Blade Wind is truly worthwhile, it's precision is usually enough to get the job done. As for fatigue cost, I mostly meant that it mimicked a volley of 50 archers. Even in skirmishes it usually lands a lot of hits, and because they're all at once it will sometimes force a morale check. Then you need to factor in the amount of afflictions the spell will dole out early enough for it to matter somewhat.

Of course, this is only my experience with Blade Wind. I once used six mages and that spell to decimate Jomon's forces, (Standard Samurai) so it can't be that useless in Late Age.

[Corwin]

Bump - still looking for Arrow Fend and Mistform answers.