Re: Ethereal and Defense Value
			 
             
			
		
		
		
		To answer your first question, yes. 
 
It doesn't matter whether the ethereal check happens before or after the regular hit calculation, it drops 3/4 of mundane attacks period.  
 
Obviously, things which synergize with preventing hits, like higher defense from say, a water bless are a good idea. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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