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				 National summon as a god? 
 If you could get any national summon or unit to be the chassis for your pretender, what would it be, and what would the starting stats and abilities be.
 To start things off, the Ryujin from the jomon would be fun, I think it would have 2 water magic and cheap access to other paths (maybe 30 per path) and 2 domain.
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				February 22nd, 2012, 08:15 PM
			
			
			
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 Something like Ulm's Iron Angel would be neat. Give it some earth magic, a modest forge bonus, excellent combat abilities and make additional magic paths exorbitantly expensive for it then turn it loose to terrorize heretical sacreds. |  
	
		
	
	
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				 Re: National summon as a god? 
 The Ether Lord and Coatl would both be nice enough. They have fairly good magic, and in both cases can have Astral 7 for cheap. The Ether Lord then has good Death Access, and the Coatl can cover a Nature/Earth/Astral bless, which is absolutely fantastic for some nations. |  
	
		
	
	
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					Originally Posted by shatner  Something like Ulm's Iron Angel would be neat. Give it some earth magic, a modest forge bonus, excellent combat abilities and make additional magic paths exorbitantly expensive for it then turn it loose to terrorize heretical sacreds. |  In the same vein: Marignon's Fallen Angel, as a specialized variant on the Moloch's theme. Start the god with F1D1B1 Fear +0 Dom 3, 80 points for additional paths and 100 or 125 points for the chassis itself.
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				 Re: National summon as a god? 
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				 Re: National summon as a god? 
 Azazel, the Lord of Civilization, would probably be the first choice. 
But the Eater of the Dead, if changed so it didn't go uncontrollable at the last stage, would be funnier as a pretender.  
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					Originally Posted by Peter Ebbesen  Azazel, the Lord of Civilization, would probably be the first choice.
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And while it's not really a national summon, a rimtursar (don't know the singular) would be pretty cool for Niefelheim. |  
	
		
	
	
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				 Re: National summon as a god? 
 Actually, Knai, the Coatl already exist as a pretender choice for MA Mictlan. Called the lawgiver. But he is shape shifted into human form in pretender selection. You can shift him back if you chose him. 
And I am still surprised over the composition of some indyprovinces. Yesterday in a test game I stumbled over Pazuzu the demon lord as an indy commander guarding a desert and kitted with bad SC equipment.   
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					Originally Posted by Corinthian  Actually, Knai, the Coatl already exist as a pretender choice for MA Mictlan. Called the lawgiver. But he is shape shifted into human form in pretender selection. You can shift him back if you choose him. |  Though why you would want to is beyond my ken - he gains maybe a couple dozen hitpoints (and a standard, weeeee !) at the cost of half his item slots and becoming cold blooded. He doesn't even need to be in Coatl form to fly around !
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					Originally Posted by Corinthian  Actually, Knai, the Coatl already exist as a pretender choice for MA Mictlan. Called the lawgiver. But he is shape shifted into human form in pretender selection. You can shift him back if you choose him. |  Though why you would want to is beyond my ken - he gains maybe a couple dozen hitpoints (and a standard, weeeee !) at the cost of half his item slots and becoming cold blooded. He doesn't even need to be in Coatl form to fly around ! |  I think he changes shape upon death. |  
	
		
	
	
	
	
	
	
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