OT: Our Economy (US)

[Atrocities]

Prepare yourself for I have stepped upon the soapbox and now speak my mind:

Right now the US is in trawled in the grips of recession, and despite everything that has happened over the Last year, some in our government believe that all of the layoff’s, bankruptcies, depressed stocks, and growing concern about our economic futures is nothing more than a rumor.

George Bush is trying, from what I have seen, to keep our economy going by doing what he can to reverse what Clinton had done. Clinton embraced more government, more taxes, and more regulation while Bush seems to be interested in lower taxes, lower government involvement (say airline security) and less regulation.

It has been proven that economic growth is obtained by free market, and that having a free market, without the chains of government regulation, promotes economic growth and expansion.

Right now, the US unemployment rate is at a national high, and some economist, mainly blind ones, say that unemployment is coming down. No, unemployment numbers are NOT coming down; they simply reflect the amount of people whose benefits have run out. Naturally since people are no longer receiving benefits, the amount of people collecting unemployment has naturally lowered. Unemployment starts are down they say, well yes and no. Most states do not monitor unemployment starts, only the number of people who collect weekly benefits. So again, a lie, or twisting of the facts.

In Washington State, Gary Locke the Governor, faced with economic disaster, does something that defies belief, he increases taxes on everything from sales tax to gasoline tax. In the Last week, gas prices have jumped by $.30 cents a gallon. Instead of fueling the economy, our Democratic Governor has stalled our economy by choking us with more taxes.

I recently have become aware that the show West Wing has become the Democratic response to a Republican President. Whatever George Bush does, they scrutinize and do the opposite on West Wing all the while hollering about morals and being in the publics best intrest. These are the same people who now criticize the military for their humane treatment of Terrorist when they kept their liberal left wing views silent during those same terrorist mistreatment of the people, namely women, of respective countries. Go figure. Now these Left Wing ultra democrats want people to believe that this economic down turn is the fault of George Bush when it is them who are increasing the taxes while George Bush is trying to lower them. A perfect example of role reversing.


It was Reganomics that brought us out of a horrible recession back in the early 80's, and it was Clintonomics that put has put us back into one now. I have faith that Bush and his economic advisers know what they are doing, and that they will lead our economy out of this post Clinton depression back into the light of economic prosperity so long as people are not fooled by what the Democrats are saying and doing.

Don't get sucked into something based upon propaganda, look into it, research it, and keep an open mind. I think therefore I am. The line against the wholesale slaughter of the innocence must be drawn here and now. This point, no further. They (Those who wish to be the power) have plunder our savings, cost us our jobs, and now want to suck us dry of every Last cent we have. They take our homes, our money, and our dignity and tell us that it’s not them doing it, but some one else. Democrats have lead this country into 3 recessions, and Republicans have lead us out of each of them.

Stop Taxing us into bankruptcy, and start protecting our rights to be free from sale.

[ 07 April 2002: Message edited by: Atrocities ]

[Kinboat]

Trying to blame one side or the other for the current state of affairs is ridiculous. For where ever there are Democrats there are Republicans, and where ever there are Republicans there are Democrats. Both wasting so much breath blaming the other side for mistakes that they fail to do anything about it. And where ever there is money you will find both sides. I'm not sure about the whole free market issue, it seems that our economy is controled by the sale and use of military hardware more than anything else, a fact that I find completely revolting. And I don't see how you can say Bush is for lower government involvement (you site airline security) When first he puts National Guard troops in airports and then gives billions in aid to the airline companies so they don't fold... That doesn't sound very free-marketish. In a free market the companies that don't cut it go out of business, they don't get handouts. But I'm sure the Democrats would have done the exact same thing. And yes Democrats have sat on their asses while human rights are violated around the world... But so have the Republicans... Let's not forget the Chinese invasion of Tibet where buddhists monks were slaughtered and are still prevented from exercising their religion. Or how about Saudia Arabia, an ally during many presidencies of both parties, a repressive monarchy that we have helped hold up with our military sales and support, women are almost as repressed in many areas of the world as they are in this one country that we supposedly liberated (Afghanistan). Both the Democrats and the Republicans have ignored those issues that they feel can be ignored and when they can't they blame the other side. Both have supported Indonesia's 30 year occupation and ethnic cleansing of East Timor (look it up you won't find it on the nightly news). We have sold weapons to their army which they now use to kill civilians. Clinton, Bush I, Bush II, They're all the same... Grasping greedy politicians who can't wait to make more money and ruin the rest of us in the process... So instead of blaming the 'Democrats' for all the worlds ill's why don't you look at each person as an individual... A Republican can be just as greedy and heartless as a Democrat can... and they are often some of the worst...
We are all responsible for the evils our government does... This is supposed to be a democracy you know... We elect these men and women... We should all feel guilty when our leaders decide to bomb someone for not agreeing... If we do then we can get off our asses and change the system so we can all one day feel pride at the masterpiece we have created... But it won't happen as long as the Bushes and Clintons of the world hold power.

[Baron Munchausen]

Kinboat: Your whole spiel is summed up in a single sentence.

There's only one party, the incumbent party!

[Versatile]

I agree with Kinboat. Both sides are in the same bag and don't forget if it is necessary for them to kill us... they will !!! We do the same in SE IV... but it is a game not life.

[Mysterial]

George Washington warned, in his farewell address, not to have political parties. A pity we didn't listen.

[Arak Koba]

Ultimately, I blame the whole "rich get richer, poor get poorer" effect for our current economy; when all is said and done, there will be 10 rich people in the world that give hand-me-outs to the other 6 billion.

Ok, a little stretched there.
But all the same, "A house divided against itself can not stand", and the U.S. is definately a house divided politically. Less government and tax is good, but corporate despots aren't, and in a free-market, the corporate big-wigs end up replacing the government ones.