"A Song of Ice and Fire", veterans-only game, MA. In progress, midgame... - Page 28

Lingchih · #**271** October 17th, 2010, 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Dimaz

Then help me and attack Pythium instead. He's clearly stronger, and you can get most of his lands and a cap in the east when we win.

That situation is complicated. The situation with you is less complicated.

DrPraetorious · #**272** October 17th, 2010, 10:16 AM

Sorry for the stale

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I did my turn just before the deadline and then went back to sleep - not realizing I'd sent in the wrong .2h file

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I'm still playing!

Dimaz · #**273** October 17th, 2010, 04:19 PM

Lingchih, the only complication I see is that I'm not from your *company* and decided to play in my own interests and not how you wanted me to play. I know that Jotun wants to attack me too; that was the final point that actually solved the puzzle for me. You two wanted to use me to draw Pyth's forces while you strike him in the back, however I was preparing for another war during Pan's last days so wasn't that interested in assisting you in your plan. If you contacted me a bit earlier, I'd probably decided to help you, but it was too late. And you decided to make the #1 even stronger after that, how nice.

DrPraetorious · #**274** October 18th, 2010, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Dimaz

Lingchih, the only complication I see is that I'm not from your *company* and decided to play in my own interests and not how you wanted me to play. I know that Jotun wants to attack me too; that was the final point that actually solved the puzzle for me. You two wanted to use me to draw Pyth's forces while you strike him in the back, however I was preparing for another war during Pan's last days so wasn't that interested in assisting you in your plan. If you contacted me a bit earlier, I'd probably decided to help you, but it was too late. And you decided to make the #1 even stronger after that, how nice.

Eh, what? I can't even reach you! Or Pythium, for that matter. Everyone may be allied against you, but it's not some kind of plot; you had a few enemies and then you made a bunch more the old-fashioned way.

Lingchih · #**275** October 18th, 2010, 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Dimaz

Lingchih, the only complication I see is that I'm not from your *company* and decided to play in my own interests and not how you wanted me to play. I know that Jotun wants to attack me too; that was the final point that actually solved the puzzle for me. You two wanted to use me to draw Pyth's forces while you strike him in the back, however I was preparing for another war during Pan's last days so wasn't that interested in assisting you in your plan. If you contacted me a bit earlier, I'd probably decided to help you, but it was too late. And you decided to make the #1 even stronger after that, how nice.

I don't have a "company". I have long NAPs with both Jotun and Pyth. I didn't have a long NAP with you. I had planned to attack you long before your ill-conceived attack on Ermor. Don't know what you were thinking there. Pan was a friend, and you killed him. Of course I would want to avenge him, and take some land and maybe a cap in the process.

My advice to you would be to make peace with Ermor, and then it's less of full-on gankfest, and just 2 vs 1.

And oh, did you break the NAP early with Pyth? I thought it was a five turn, but I see you siegeing a castle of his. If you did, then I cannot trust you, and our NAP may end early.

Dimaz · #**276** October 18th, 2010, 01:36 AM

Really? Then why Ermor says you asked him to give a passage to me? And your

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Everyone may be allied against you, but it's not some kind of plot; you had a few enemies and then you made a bunch more the old-fashioned way.

is simply incorrect:
1) Not everyone allied against me, I have peace with Ermor at least as he has some sense.
2) I made only 1 enemy old-fashioned way: Pythium. I had peace with everyone when I attacked Ermor, after that Corwin logically declared war on me (which was predictable) AND TC illogically declared war on me. I had to make peace with Ermor as he seems to *really* dislike gank, not as Lingchih. So both your statements are incorrect: I didn't have a few enemies, and the only one I made old-fashioned way was Pythium which was perfectly OK for me. And TC and Jotun's actions say for themselves.
3) I don't think it's a plot against me, I'm not that good player. You just give your relation higher priority than in-game interests. That's why I try to reduce diplomacy to a necessary minimum: otherwise it creates unfair game situations.
I don't want to return to that topic anymore because I don't want another drama thread (sorry Corwin for these 2 posts).

Lingchih · #**277** October 18th, 2010, 01:44 AM

To be fair, Corwin doesn't like a Gank either. He hated how Baalz went out early. I, on the other hand, have been ganked so many times I can't even remember them all. So, I will gank back. I'm glad you made peace with Ermor... it should make the battle more even. I really have nothing against you Dimaz. I pledged to Pan that I would avenge him, and I am now attempting to do so.

Hostilities start on turn 53. I will not break early.

Dimaz · #**278** October 18th, 2010, 01:46 AM

Lingchih, as I said no more drama, just couple of facts.
1) I had no NAP with you as we had no borders for most of the game.
2) My attack on Ermor was well planned and beneficial to my game position, without your sudden interference.
3) I have no friends when in game. So Pan wasn't a friend, and I killed him because 1) it was easy 2) I needed N gems.
4) Now you say it yourself, you want to avenge him. Not to win the game. Avenge Pan. I hope everyone who can read will read it. Thanks.
5) I made alliance with Ermor as soon as I became aware of your plans. He doesn't belong to your *company*, so it wasn't a problem.
6) Pyth patrolled one of my vans who managed to kill his patrollers. I don't think this can count as nap violation as we hadn't a point about disallowing stealthy armies on each other territory.

Lingchih · #**279** October 18th, 2010, 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Dimaz

Lingchih, as I said no more drama, just couple of facts.
1) I had no NAP with you as we had no borders for most of the game.
2) My attack on Ermor was well planned and beneficial to my game position, without your sudden interference.
3) I have no friends when in game. So Pan wasn't a friend, and I killed him because 1) it was easy 2) I needed N gems.
4) Now you say it yourself, you want to avenge him. Not to win the game. Avenge Pan. I hope everyone who can read will read it. Thanks.
5) I made alliance with Ermor as soon as I became aware of your plans. He doesn't belong to your *company*, so it wasn't a problem.
6) Pyth patrolled one of my vans who managed to kill his patrollers. I don't think this can count as nap violation as we hadn't a point about disallowing stealthy armies on each other territory.

I don't want to get into a pissing match with you Dimaz. Let's just fight, come turn 53.

DrPraetorious · #**280** October 18th, 2010, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Dimaz

Lingchih, as I said no more drama, just couple of facts.
5) I made alliance with Ermor as soon as I became aware of your plans. He doesn't belong to your *company*, so it wasn't a problem.

HA HA HA! Fool! Executor/Ermor is actually the *leader* of the grand coalition and massive conspiracy meant to destroy you.

He will betray your NAP at the earliest possible instant, utterly vaporizing you on behalf of his master and sovereign, Lingchih.