"A Song of Ice and Fire", veterans-only game, MA. In progress, midgame...

[Dimaz]

Lingchih, as I said no more drama, just couple of facts.
1) I had no NAP with you as we had no borders for most of the game.
2) My attack on Ermor was well planned and beneficial to my game position, without your sudden interference.
3) I have no friends when in game. So Pan wasn't a friend, and I killed him because 1) it was easy 2) I needed N gems.
4) Now you say it yourself, you want to avenge him. Not to win the game. Avenge Pan. I hope everyone who can read will read it. Thanks.
5) I made alliance with Ermor as soon as I became aware of your plans. He doesn't belong to your *company*, so it wasn't a problem.
6) Pyth patrolled one of my vans who managed to kill his patrollers. I don't think this can count as nap violation as we hadn't a point about disallowing stealthy armies on each other territory.

[Lingchih]

Originally Posted by Dimaz

Lingchih, as I said no more drama, just couple of facts.
1) I had no NAP with you as we had no borders for most of the game.
2) My attack on Ermor was well planned and beneficial to my game position, without your sudden interference.
3) I have no friends when in game. So Pan wasn't a friend, and I killed him because 1) it was easy 2) I needed N gems.
4) Now you say it yourself, you want to avenge him. Not to win the game. Avenge Pan. I hope everyone who can read will read it. Thanks.
5) I made alliance with Ermor as soon as I became aware of your plans. He doesn't belong to your *company*, so it wasn't a problem.
6) Pyth patrolled one of my vans who managed to kill his patrollers. I don't think this can count as nap violation as we hadn't a point about disallowing stealthy armies on each other territory.

I don't want to get into a pissing match with you Dimaz. Let's just fight, come turn 53.

[DrPraetorious]

Originally Posted by Dimaz

Lingchih, as I said no more drama, just couple of facts.
5) I made alliance with Ermor as soon as I became aware of your plans. He doesn't belong to your *company*, so it wasn't a problem.

HA HA HA! Fool! Executor/Ermor is actually the *leader* of the grand coalition and massive conspiracy meant to destroy you.

He will betray your NAP at the earliest possible instant, utterly vaporizing you on behalf of his master and sovereign, Lingchih.

[Corwin]

Originally Posted by Dimaz

6) Pyth patrolled one of my vans who managed to kill his patrollers. I don't think this can count as nap violation as we hadn't a point about disallowing stealthy armies on each other territory.

Speaking of which, on ganking/diplomacy unrelated note - that sneaking van had cost me a lot of money and killed 40 or so longbowman this turn, not to mention he is now besieging one of my high income castles. Also that van could easily and safely retreat after being caught, if he would be been scripted to do it, being in the border province. But he didn't, despite the fact that you were aware (or should be) that my castle was heavily patrolled (bunch of your spies were caught there recently).

I feel it is pushing our NAP agreement a bit too far. I will not call it a direct violation, and I will not ask for money compensation (which would be significant) but I reserve the right to get that van if I can. Fair?

[Lingchih]

Originally Posted by Corwin

Speaking of which, on ganking/diplomacy unrelated note - that sneaking van had cost me a lot of money and killed 40 or so longbowman this turn, not to mention he is now besieging one of my high income castles. Also that van could easily and safely retreat after being caught, if he would be been scripted to do it, being in the border province. But he didn't, despite the fact that you were aware (or should be) that my castle was heavily patrolled (bunch of your spies were caught there recently).

I feel it is pushing our NAP agreement a bit too far. I will not call it a direct violation, and I will not ask for money compensation (which would be significant) but I reserve the right to get that van if I can. Fair?

On a similar note, caught a Vanadrott equipped thug sneaking into one of my heavily patrolled provs. I drove him off, but lost a few hundred gold worth of units. I would say this is definitely pushing the limits of an NAP agreement, and have never seen it done to me before. He was not scripted to retreat, and so I see that as an attack. But since the NAP is almost over, I'll let it pass I guess.