another questions thread [gameplay restricted please]

[Alneyan]

Originally posted by Pocus:

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Originally posted by HJ:

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Originally posted by Pocus:
any idea on the radius of standard?

Check out the first Kristoffer's post in this thread.

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"the value is his area of effect".

I dont understand the answer.

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I gather it means the value for Standard (say, +6) is the area of the effect for the bonus. (In this case, it would affect all units up to six sectors away) I don't recall if the value affects the strength of the effect as well though.

[HJ]

Originally posted by Alneyan:
I gather it means the value for Standard (say, +6) is the area of the effect for the bonus. (In this case, it would affect all units up to six sectors away) I don't recall if the value affects the strength of the effect as well though.

That's my understanding as well. The only thing I don't know is whether the value is a "radius" in squares, or the squares themselves. Let me try to explain. Each square has 8 squares surrounding it:
000
0X0
000
where X is the square in question and 0 are the squares around it. But the "radius" is 1, i.e. only one square in each direction. "Radius" of 2 would look something like this:
00000
00000
00X00
00000
00000
So in other words, is the area of effect calculated as all other areas of effect, say for the spells, or is it the number of concentrical circles around the unit? If it's just the squares, then how is it decided which squares are under the influence of the banner if the value is, e.g. 6? Does it change from turn to turn? If so, the standard could be somewhat unreliable, since it could end up affecting the empty squares and not affecting the ones with the units.

[ November 04, 2003, 14:24: Message edited by: HJ ]

[johan osterman]

The area is area like in spells. 15 area affects 15 squares and potentionally 45 size 2 units. It spreads somewhat erratically from the center so the area might 'lean' in one direction, once again much like with the spells. The area can as HJ suggested 'hit' empty squares.

[ November 04, 2003, 14:38: Message edited by: johan osterman ]

[Pocus]

I suppose it would have helped my understanding if I had checked that a value is now associated with the standard

I always believed that standard gave a +1 morale bonus, whereas it seems it acts like a mini continuous 'sermon of courage' spell, is that what you understand?

[johan osterman]

Yes.

Edit: Although I think the morale recovery from the sermon of courage is greater than one.

[ November 04, 2003, 15:17: Message edited by: johan osterman ]

[Kristoffer O]

Originally posted by Pocus:


i would have though that mindless units were not counted as in the morale average check, from my experience it is better to add ghouls and not mindless in a living squad. I must be wrong.

Don't be too certain there are many changes that neither me nor JK are aware of. It is not impossible that mindless do not count in the average.

is fanatism better compared to sermon, or the reverse, when dealing with minimal morale loss? Sometime I see that level 4 priests will prefer sermon other fanatism, so I say to myself that the sermon effect is slightly more potent.

I'm not sure. It might be.

is the formula for rout like this :
morale losses > number of units + average morale, then rout (with dices or not)

No idea Probably something like that.

can morale loss for a given unit superior to his base morale (milicia have 8 morale, can they have more than 8 penalty), that would create a sinkhole effect indeed, as they would fail often, and then get a big morale loss very detrimental to everybody.

They can have more morale loss than eight. Yes, they are horrible. Imagine starving militia together with your Wardens

[Pocus]

Originally posted by Kristoffer O:

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Originally posted by Pocus:


i would have though that mindless units were not counted as in the morale average check, from my experience it is better to add ghouls and not mindless in a living squad. I must be wrong.

Don't be too certain there are many changes that neither me nor JK are aware of. It is not impossible that mindless do not count in the average.

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and as you are the only two coders I know of, I must conclude the code modify itself