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		Is there any other way besides Teleport? Tried giving a Flying Carpet but that didn't work. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		lol.. that would have been funny to see: the peasants busting their arses lifting up a big, divine statue to jam a flying carpet under it, and then it doesnt work.. suckers! 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		I think it is too bad that Gateway no longer works. Astral Travel, ok; but to a friendly lab with Gateway, that SHOULD work. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		Cloud Trapeze should allow the pretender to move (with Air magic). 
Returning (Astral magic) should work too, even if you dont have a lab in the province, but you need a battle for the spell to trigger (Send Lesser Horror ? ask another player to attack the province with a scout ?). Untested. 
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		from the 2.08 readme: 
 
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		I think your Pretender can only be re-called to your Capital. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		No longer being able to cast Gateway makes an immobile pretender's leadership value completely moot. I'm for: 
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EDIT: this means that you will never be able to actually attack anything with that pretender, since only friendly provinces can be targeted. Where is the imbalance? Please give us Gateway back! (Please?) 
  
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		If you can teleport an immobile Pretender, you can always ferry troops to him/her/it via another mages, especially if you equip them with leadership-boosting items. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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