What happens if ... ? (a couple specific game questions)

PDF · #1 June 1st, 2004, 10:34 AM

1- A mage that already "Lost one eye" puts on an Eye of Accuracy ? Does he become blind

? It'll make sense he put it in his "lost" eyeslot ...

2- A diseased, Twiceborn mage dies from the disease ? Does he become a Wight as should be ? (I've had strange experience with death from disease, in one case my stealthy prophet died this way while in enemy territory and I was never able to appoint a new prophet thereafter)

Norfleet · #2 June 1st, 2004, 10:41 AM

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Originally posted by PDF:
1- A mage that already "Lost one eye" puts on an Eye of Accuracy ? Does he become blind ? It'll make sense he put it in his "lost" eyeslot ...

He will not lose another eye if you give him an eye of accuracy, unless you give him two eyes.

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2- A diseased, Twiceborn mage dies from the disease ? Does he become a Wight as should be ? (I've had strange experience with death from disease, in one case my stealthy prophet died this way while in enemy territory and I was never able to appoint a new prophet thereafter)

He should. I've had a twiceborned fellow I deliberately drowned to kill him and turn him into a Wight Mage. He came back as expected.

You do have to make sure he dies within your dominion for this to work, however, and disease is definitely a bad way to do it, as he'll keep his afflictions gained while being diseased.

PDF · #3 June 1st, 2004, 11:28 AM

Thanks for the answers Norfleet !
And about my Twiceborn mage, it wasn't a "strategy" to have him diseased : he was my RB Prenteder and got the disease from a site on his second province search on turn 12

... I saved him with a Regen ring when he had only 2 hp left, and he cast Twiceborn thereafter

There is some risk involved if I let him die however, lest him get Feebleminded or Mute

Gandalf Parker · #4 June 1st, 2004, 04:19 PM

From the
comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.strategic newsgroup:
posted by Leejay Wu and responded by Jachues Vidal

>> Oh, and one might note that Twiceborn works on the
>> Void Lurker, as it's alive. Just don't forget that if
>> you want to try this, you need both death magic (for the
>> Twiceborn) and water magic (so your new divine wight
>> mage doesn't immediately drown). Then you get a 0-pt
>> 15/path astral 3+ undead mage with all slots, cold
>> immunity, and chill effect as your pretender.
>
> Just FYI, not being lifeless also allows your Lurker to cast
> Transformation if it's lacking in death magic. Although you'd better
> have some way to cure an occasional feeblemind, and a decent stock of
> nature gems to repeat the process in case it turns into a wimpy
> Dragonfly ;-)

This went straight into my tactics file. Choose cheap, buy scales, then change your god into something else.

[ June 01, 2004, 15:21: Message edited by: Gandalf Parker ]

PDF · #5 June 1st, 2004, 09:45 PM

Hey guys, we've found something to make *better* RMs and Immobile pretenders !

Norfleet · #6 June 1st, 2004, 10:41 PM

Old news. I've been fooling with that for awhile now.

Or did you mean you found something new?

Twiceborn will work on your pretender. Ritual of Rebirth, however, won't (despite that the flavor text of the mummy indicates a "dead god or giant", which you would think implies that a god could be mummified in such a manner....)

Gandalf Parker · #7 June 1st, 2004, 11:36 PM

I think the "we've" found was the important part. Of course others knew it (after all I was posting other peoples tips) but now its a "we" thing. (or did you mean that you posted that tip earlier?)

Arralen · #8 June 2nd, 2004, 01:03 AM

Does Twiceborn work on pretenders ??

I think not, and it shouldn't anyway, IMHO.

Better kill him off fast and have your priest call him back - you'll only loose some magic, but dying from disease will get him 2..4 additional afflictions most of which will not vanish by themselves.

Or even better - keep him alive and have him healed(GoH, Chalice, Fairy Queen).

PDF · #9 June 2nd, 2004, 01:24 AM

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Originally posted by Arralen:
Does Twiceborn work on pretenders ??

I think not, and it shouldn't anyway, IMHO.

Better kill him off fast and have your priest call him back - you'll only loose some magic, but dying from disease will get him 2..4 additional afflictions most of which will not vanish by themselves.

Or even better - keep him alive and have him healed(GoH, Chalice, Fairy Queen).

Why shouldn't it work on Pretenders ? Anyway as he get diseased very soon and I couldn't possibly "kill him" on a whim he took a couple afflictions but nothing serious.
And having him called back is a killer for a 6 path-2 RB !

As for healing him fully it ain't that easy with Abysia, Demons don't heal