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				Anonymous vs Identifiable rituals
	
			 
             
			
		
		
		
		Re-posting from here 
http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/thr...5&o=&fpart=all
I was unable to find a comprehensive list of which rituals were anonymous, so I'm asking if anyone can confirm any of the unknowns.
 
edit: So this is what it looks like so far.  If anyone can think of a missed ritual that affects another nation please let me know, or if there are any incorrect listings.
 
Anonymous: 
Hurricane 
Dispel 
Fires from Afar 
Rain of toads 
Leprosy 
Wolven winter 
Locust swarms 
Raging Hearts 
Seeking Arrow 
Baleful Star 
Blight 
Black Death 
Phantasmal attack - no flag 
Tidal Wave 
Volcanic eruption 
Earth Attack 
Send lesser horror 
Send Horror 
Vengeance of the dead - if MR check is made 
Ghost riders 
Flames from the sky 
Murdering winter 
Mind Hunt 
Melancholia 
crumble 
Fate of Oedipus 
Horror Seed 
Beckoning 
Infernal Disease
 
Identifiable: 
Imprint souls 
Call of the wild 
call of winds 
Arouse hunger 
Horde from hell 
Army of the dead 
Angelic Host 
Send Tupilak 
Carrion Reanimation 
Vengeance of the dead - If MR check fails 
Wind ride - If successful 
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				Re: Anonymous vs Identifiable rituals
			 
             
			
		
		
		
		As has been previously noted, any spell that summons monsters which stick around -- including Carrion Animation and Angelic Host -- is not anonymous.  Spells which summon 'Special Monsters' -- horrors, earth elementals -- are unflagged.  'Send Tupilak' is obvious, because there's only one nation which can cast it.   
 
A successful 'Vengeance of the Dead' is, if memory serves, a flagged attack -- if the MR check is made, it's anonymous, but the battle resulting from a failed check is not.  
 
 
Spells which cause pure damage or other effects not causing a battle, are always anonymous -- to a point.  The quirk is that you can get some information from the effect of a damaging dome, if memory serves. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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Thanks Taqwus - so does that mean that pretty much all the remaining "unsure" are all anonymous? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		Well, if Wind ride is successful then you can be pretty sure who cast it.    But I guess you mean if the attempt was unsuccesful.  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		Similarly, if you Wish for provinces, the other players won't know who cast the wish but they WILL know who now owns the province! 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		Does wind ride give any message if unsuccessful? If so, does it identify the caster? 
 
Does Wish put out any sort of global message to the recipients or does it just take the provinces? (Possible there is a province losing activity that turn and you never see the flag). 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		Back in Dominions 1 at least Vengeance of the Dead was fully anonymous. The monsters that attacked were Special Monsters - the player who casted it didn't have control over them. It was more like Manifestation (anonymous) and Earth Attack (anonymous) rather than a regular Assassination attempt (not anonymous). 
 
Flames from the Sky and Murdering Winter are anonymous.  
 
Mind Hunt is anonymous.  
 
I'm pretty sure Melancholia is anonymous, too. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		maybe Leprosy is anonymous too 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		Pretty much. 
 
Anything that resembles a random event already in the game, shows up as that event.  Nobody gets blamed for disease outbreaks, or even strange things like flames falling from the heavens... 
 
Even when Mind Hunt -fails- because the caster's silver cord got severed, it doesn't tell you who the caster was. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				Re: Anonymous vs Identifiable rituals
			 
             
			
		
		
		
		People will eventually realize that someone bombards them with anonymous spells though because if you get a hurricane on your capitol and your most valuable provinces every or every 2nd turn it is very unlikely that it is a random event. 
Usually you can then find out which player most likely used those rituals on you. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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