Network MA, Whyte (Full)

[tromper]

My positioning was extremely unfortunate regarding independents, and a few bad events knocked me out down there in the corner. Goofy map, ultimately. My little roleplaying attempts at diplomacy to make people aware of your excellent position and easy expansion went unheralded. You've a good shot of overwhelming Pangea which is the only threat in the area, as the apes there to the South were more or less set to AI, or at least acting like it. (?) Have fun.

[vfb]

Sorry to hear you didn't like the map! But I think the strength of the indies on the map is random, and not dependent on the map file itself (unless the map specifically bumps up the indy strength for particular provinces, and this one doesn't).

Were you surrounded by knights or something?

[jimkehn]

Vanheim fell to the Abysians and Ulmians. Nice game, Thraveboy!!! Those glamour guys are tough!.

[Eressil3]

tromper said:
My little roleplaying attempts at diplomacy to make people aware of your excellent position and easy expansion went unheralded.

I offered to help you. I offered to cancel my NAP with the jotuns and attack three months later (according to the NAP). It should have worked. You should be alive now, may be not in good state but alive at least. I wonder why you answered you could repel all the giants by yourself...
May be you should be more clear in your roleplaying attempts...

Now the jotun's empire is as huge as Pangaea's one and the forest dwellers don't want a war with them

[thejeff]

Obviously I am a great threat. I've caught up with Pangaea's size and he doesn't want to send his fire blessed centaurs after me. So I'm the threat.

Jotunheim was forced into an early war. Now that it's over, we hope to have some peace to rebuild and consolidate our gains.
We are no threat to anyone unless we are attacked.

[vfb]

Eressil3 said:

I offered to help you. I offered to cancel my NAP with the jotuns and attack three months later (according to the NAP). It should have worked. You should be alive now, may be not in good state but alive at least. I wonder why you answered you could repel all the giants by yourself...
May be you should be more clear in your roleplaying attempts...

Nah! It's most excellent role playing for Marignon. Remember, they are paranoid. They cannot accept offers of help, because it must be a trick! The church will not allow alliances with heathens, blasphemers, and especially not pagans who spend their time frolicking in the forests!

[tromper]

Yeah come on, Eressil3, you should have been pleased I even gave you warning about the tallmen. And it wasn't like you were going to help our Inquisitors anyway - you offered nothing of substance and merely stated that you had a NAP.

Anyway, if you know Marignon, you know that they would have rammed hot irons into your drunken forest dwellers' earholes, stuck the torso on a fiery spit, and prayed that their now very defunct God would wake the hell up to give you more lessons than Oprah on acid.

[thejeff]

Agreed on the role playing, seen as well in his refusal of Jotunheim's offer of peace after our forces clashed in an independent province. Though he already had what I assume was a prophetized spy causing unrest within my borders.

Paranoid and hostile to all unbelievers may be a reasonable character for Marignon, but it's also very limiting.

After all, Pangaea is full of heathens, but at least they don't tamper with forbidden death magic like the Jotuns do. They can be purged later...

[Eressil3]

vfb said:
Nah! It's most excellent role playing for Marignon. Remember, they are paranoid. They cannot accept offers of help, because it must be a trick! The church will not allow alliances with heathens, blasphemers, and especially not pagans who spend their time frolicking in the forests!

I didn't know this verb : "to frolick" LOOOOL

Please let me clarify : I'm PnP roleplayer. I love roleplaying. I would like to RP every aspect of this game too, but sometime I'm just too lazy...
I do think Tromper's RP was great and entertaining, but sometime in diplomacy you need to be clear and not let place to doubt. Tromper you could have told me something like :

"You drunken pagan forest pig !..." oops sorry wrong sentence

No simply just a *yes* or a *no* somewhere in the rp mail could have helped...

And Tromper you're wrong. If you had tell me something like :"Marignon can stand more than three months before beeing defeated, enter the fight as soon as you can !" I had help you just because I was in the mood to do it... Yes just to make a remake of LOTR
Yes a great besieged city saved by a huge cavalry... Yeaaah ! "Chaaaarge !" But not this time... Mmmm... in fact there are other reasons but you'll have to guess them !

BTW I seem to have some communicating issues with my fellow players. I already got one in the afterthought game... Another here... May be I should ask to Gandalf to put a sticky about me saying something like "Please be clear with the poor eressil, it's hard for him to understand you..."

[thejeff]

I'm afraid I'm going to have to delay the game again.

Longer weekend this time. I'll be away Thursday evening until Tuesday night.

Sorry for the holdup, it should be my last for awhile.