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Old April 16th, 2002, 05:59 PM
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I just recieved this from a friend. What do y'all think?


>
> STOP PAYING FOR ECONOMIC AND HUMAN TERRORISM!!
>
> I hear we are going to hit close to $3.00 a gallon by
> the summer Want gasoline prices to come down? We need
> to take some intelligent, united action. Phillip
> Hollsworth, offered this good idea: This makes MUCH
> MORE SENSE than the "don't buy gas on a certain day"
> campaign that was going around Last April or May!
>
> The oil companies just laughed at that because they
> knew we wouldn't continue to "hurt" ourselves by
> refusing to buy gas. It was more of an inconvenience
> to us than it was a problem for them. BUT, whoever
> thought of this idea, has come up with a plan that can
> really work. Please read it and join with us!
>
> Now that the oil companies and the OPEC nations have
> conditioned us to think that the cost of a gallon of
> gas is CHEAP at $1.50- $1.75, we need to take
> aggressive action to teach them that BUYERS control
> the marketplace....not sellers. With the price of
> gasoline going up more each day, we consumers need to
> take action. The only way we are going to see the
> price of gas come down is if we hit someone in the
> pocketbook by not purchasing THEIR gas! And we can do
> that WITHOUT hurting ourselves. How? .
>
> Since we all rely on our cars, we can't just stop
> buying gas. But we CAN have an impact on gas prices if
> we all act together to force a price war. Here's the
> idea: For the rest of this year, DON"T purchase ANY
> gasoline from the two biggest companies (which now are
> one), EXXON and MOBIL. If they are not selling any
> gas, they will be inclined to reduce their prices. If
> they reduce their prices, the other companies will
> have to follow suit.
>
> But to have an impact, we need to reach literally
> millions of Exxon and Mobil gas buyers. It's really
> simple to do!! Now, don't wimp out on me at this
> point...keep reading and I'll explain how simple it is
> to reach millions of people!! .
>
> I am sending this note to about thirty people. If each
> of you send it to at least ten more (30 x 10 = 300)...
> and those 300 send it to at least ten more (300 x 10 =
> 3,000) ... and so on, by the time the message reaches
> the sixth generation of people, we will have reached
> over THREE MILLION consumers! ..
>
> If those three million get excited and pass this on to
> ten friends each, then 30 million people will have
> been contacted! If it goes one level further, you
> guessed it..... THREE HUNDRED MILLION PEOPLE!!! .
>
> Again, all you have to do is send this to 10 people.
> That's all. If you don't understand how we can reach
> 300 million and all you have to do is send this to 10
> people.
>
> How long would all that take? If each of us sends this
> email out to ten more people within one day of
> receipt, all 300 MILLION people could conceivably be
> contacted within the next 8 days!!!
>
> I'll bet you didn't think you and I had that much
> potential, did you? Acting together we can make a
> difference. If this makes sense to you, please pass
> this message on. PLEASE HOLD OUT UNTIL
>
> THEY LOWER THEIR PRICES AND KEEP THEM DOWN. THIS CAN
> REALLY WORK. YOU KNOW THEY LOVE HOLIDAYS AND SUMMER
> TRAVELERS.
>
>
> STOP PAYING FOR TERRORISM!!!!!!
>
> Note the following information:
>
> Every time you fill up the car, you can avoid putting
> more money into the coffers of Saudi Arabia. Just buy
> from gas companies that don't import their oil from
> the Saudis.
>
> Nothing is more frustrating than the feeling that
> every time I fill-up the tank, I am sending my money
> to people who are trying to kill me, my family, and my
> friends. I thought it might be interesting for you to
> know which oil companies are the best to buy gas from.
>
> Major companies that import Middle Eastern oil (for
> the period 9/1/00 - 8/31/01).
>
> Shell................ 205,742,000 barrels
> Chevron/Texaco....... 144,332,000 barrels
> Exxon/Mobil.......... 130,082,000 barrels
> Marathon............. 117,740,000 barrels
> Amoco................ 62,231,000 barrels
>
> If you do the math at $30/barrell, these imports
> amount to over $18 BILLION! Here are some large
> companies that do not import Middle Eastern oil:
>
> Citgo 0 barrels
> Sunoco 0 barrels
> Conoco 0 barrels
> Sinclair 0 barrels
> BP/Phillips 0 barrels
>
> All of this information is available from the
> Department of Energy and can be easily documented.
> Refineries located in the U.S. are required to state
> where they get their oil and how much they are
> importing. They
> report on a monthly basis.
>
> Keep this list in your car; share it with friends. And
> Stop paying for terrorism.............

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OIL BURNS!!!
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Old April 16th, 2002, 11:50 PM

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A big pile of....

I think it is nice that they added the terrorism bit.... ask your friend for the proof and facts that this message is delivering.

I also love the math on the 3x10x10x10 factor with a ratio of one to one on the unique friend list.

but think about this.

For this to be true then

Everyone is the middle east is a terrorist

Refinerys from non-middle eastern countries do not purchase oil from the middle east.

That Citgo to BP refinerys are not at 100% or close to 100% production capacity. Because if they are then they will run out of gas. Which should cause the prices to increase. And Citgo to BP to purchase there gas from the refinerys that would have produced gas to shell to amoco or from middle eastern countries to cover the increase in production.

Unless economics and supply and demand work differently.......

So tell your friend to to tell 10 other friends that this is bull*&^%.

And within 8 days 300 million people will know that

Later Wardad.

That's what I think.

P.S.

No personal insults were intended.
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Old April 17th, 2002, 06:23 PM
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What do I think? I think I should buy stock in oil companies! If gas hits $3/gal, then profit/gal can be much higher without people noticing much. They will be selling a premium product instead of a cheap commodity. Sure, people will cut back driving and flying some, but not enough to kill the huge profit potential. Americans are stuck with their gas-guzzling vehicles, their long commutes, and their spread-out suburbs. Maybe they will change in the long run (they certainly would If I Were In Charge; see that topic), but they are stuck in the short run.

As far as the idea of boycotting the biggest company: I do that already. Join me, everyone!
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Old April 17th, 2002, 09:18 PM
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Yea, Well... I thought it was simplistic too.

My wife has always bought Texaco, and to please her I buy it too. Now that Mobil bought them out it's time to reconsider. I might buy Citgo from now on.

Ok, some OIL companies are intergrated operations and have mideast holdings etc... or just can't avoid mideast oil. These companies have regular oil shipments to their refineries.

Some companies like Armanda Hess are smaller and do buisness elsewhere. Psst.. they also had a great P/E of 5 Last year, with a decent dividend, and healthy 3 yr grotwth rate. Damn, I wish I bought their stock.

Other independant refineries and stations buy on the spot market or contract for whatever is available. So they could be selling mideast oil and oil products if the big companies can't move it.

Also in Texas years ago because of Gov regulation the local crude would get higher prices than the imported crude. So some oil brokers just forged paper work and made a bundle.
So I don't believe everything the oil companies report to the DOE. If we make an issue about mideast oil, we will get lied to and have to pay extra for the lip service.

I remember the Valdez disaster when nearly everyone stop buying Exxon. It really hurt the Exxon station owner/operators, but had little effect on Exxon corporate income. BUT... I still do not buy Exxon and I still feel good about it.

So maybe boycotting outlets for mideast oil won't do much, but I'll feel a little better when I'm pumping gas.


P.S. I do not expect gas to go to $3.00 a gallon in the US anytime soon. I also did not expect 9/11 or the new Israel/Palistenian war either.


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Old April 22nd, 2002, 05:46 PM
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NOT PC!!! SENSE OF HUMOR REQUIRED:

TRADITIONAL CAPITALISM: You have two cows. You sell one and buy a bull. Your herd multiplies, and the economy grows. You sell them and
retire on the income.

ENRON VENTURE CAPITALISM: You have two cows. You sell three of them to your publicly listed company, using letters of credit opened by your
brother-in-law at the bank, then execute a debt/equity swap with an associated general offer so that you get all four cows back, with a tax exemption
for five cows. The milk rights of the six cows are transferred via an intermediary to a Cayman Island company secretly owned by the majority
shareholder who sells the rights to all seven cows back to your listed company. The annual report says the company owns eight cows, with an option
on one more. Sell one cow to buy a new president of the United States, leaving you with nine cows. No balance sheet provided with the release. The
public buys your bull.

AN AMERICAN CORPORATION: You have two cows. You sell one, and force the other to produce the milk of four cows. You
are surprised when the cow drops dead.

A FRENCH CORPORATION: You have two cows. You go on strike because you want three cows.

A JAPANESE CORPORATION: You have two cows. You redesign them so they are one-tenth the size of an ordinary cow and produce twenty times
the milk. You then create clever cow cartoon images called Cowkimon and market them World-Wide.

A GERMAN CORPORATION: You have two cows. You reengineer them so they live for 100 years, eat once a month , and milk themselves.

A BRITISH CORPORATION: You have two cows. Both are mad.

AN ITALIAN CORPORATION: You have two cows, but you don't know where they are. You break for lunch.

A RUSSIAN CORPORATION: You have two cows. You count them and learn you have five cows. You count them again and learn you have 42 cows.
You count them again and learn you have 12 cows. You stop counting cows and open another bottle of vodka.

A SWISS CORPORATION: You have 5000 cows, none of which belong to you. You charge others for storing them.

A HINDU CORPORATION: You have two cows. You worship them.

A CHINESE CORPORATION: You have two cows. You have 300 people milking them. You claim full employment, high bovine productivity, and arrest
the newsman who reported the numbers.

A TEXAN CORPORATION: You have two cows. That one on the left is kinda cute...
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Like it except for the reference to British companies
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That is funny. I especially like the Last one.

Note where I am posting from.
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The tribal wisdom of the Dakota Indians, passed on from one generation to the next, says that when you discover you are riding a dead horse, the best strategy is to dismount. However, in modern business, because of the heavy investment factors to be taken into consideration, often other strategies have to be tried with dead horses, including the following:

1. Buying a stronger whip.
2. Changing riders.
3. Threatening the horse with termination.
4. Appointing a committee to study the horse.
5. Arranging to visit other sites to see how they ride dead horses.
6. Lowering the standards so that dead horses can be included.
7. Appointing an intervention team to reanimate the dead horse.
8. Creating a training session to increase the riders load share.
9. Reclassifying the dead horse as living-impaired.
10. Changing the form so that it reads: "This horse is not dead."
11. Hiring outside contractors to ride the dead horse.
12. Harnessing several dead horses together for increased speed.
13. Donating the dead horse to a recognized charity, thereby deducting its full original cost.
14. Providing additional funding to increase the horse's performance.
15. Doing a time management study to see if the lighter riders would improve productivity.
16. Purchasing an after-market product to make dead horses run faster.
17. Declaring that a dead horse has lower overhead and therefore performs better.
18. Forming a quality focus group to find profitable uses for dead horses.
19. Rewriting the expected performance requirements for horses.

and if all else fails:

20. Promote the dead horse to a supervisory position.
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quote:
Originally posted by tesco samoa:


and if all else fails:

20. Promote the dead horse to a supervisory position.



Now how many of us have seen the "Peter Principle +1" in action?:

Promoting a dead horse to one level above his incompetence.
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Back to capitalism jokes: politicaly correct capitalism:
You have two cows. You got sued for $1000000000 for sexualy harrasing them. You did fondle their breasts, did't you ?
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