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September 28th, 2008, 10:05 AM
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Re: New Finnish OOB
Feel free to. And if you do, please share it with the rest of us. I kinda enjoyed the mix of a landing operation and urban combat and I think I might enjoy it even more if I didn't know exactly what I was up against and where to expect them.
- Koh
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September 28th, 2008, 05:42 PM
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Re: New Finnish OOB
try this... I tried to keep the forces similar to what you had and the deployment somewhat similar.
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September 28th, 2008, 08:32 PM
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Re: New Finnish OOB
I gave it a go. It was a nice variation. I managed to get a strong marginal victory, although I did suffer some pretty bad losses as the Russians had some weapons pretty well suited for urban combat.
- Koh
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October 14th, 2008, 10:58 PM
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Re: New Finnish OOB
I've been working on a little something lately and I though I'd give you a taste of it.
Attached is a scenario, part of an upcoming ten scenario pack based on the book Operaatio Finlandia by Arto Paasilinna. The book tells the tale of a war fought in 1977 between Finland and Sweden, launched by ownership disputes over the Aland Islands and the poor treatment of the Finnish and other immigrants by the Swedish ultra nationalist government. The pack will feature scenarios with the player taking the Finnish side as well as scenarios with the player taking the Swedish side.
And yes, the scenarios use the modified Finnish OOB.
- Koh
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October 16th, 2008, 09:56 PM
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Re: New Finnish OOB
Ok, I've got a question for Zipuli. Or anyone else if someone happens to know. The modified Finnish OOB has the Finns using Bv 202 from 1963 onwards. Despite my best efforts I couldn't find any information regarding the use of Bv 202s in Finland. So my question is, did Finland really have Bv 202s and who were they used by? I'd imagine that the Pohja Jaeger Brigade and Lapland Jaeger Brigade would be strong candidates, but again I've found no info about their use anywhere.
Are they in the OOB by mistake (which would nicely force me to redo a scenario or two) or were they really used?
- Koh
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February 9th, 2009, 12:18 PM
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Re: New Finnish OOB
Latest version is soon ready. Changes after last reports:
-Patriot is out, NASAMS seems to be winning the race. NASAMS added instead. I guess we will know during this year...
-New Scania and Sisu trucks (delivered 2009->)
Koh I believe the BV202 has never been used by the FDF, I will also look into this in the OOB.
Zip
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February 16th, 2009, 05:30 AM
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Re: New Finnish OOB
File for Koh (oob 6.2 unfinished)
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February 20th, 2009, 10:24 AM
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Re: New Finnish OOB
Finally received the books on FDF trucks etc. BV202 was in fact in use, 15 of them in total. Of course not numerous enough to equip any infantry units organically with them, but they will be available in the OOB in the MISC page, no longer in the infantry menu as APC for formations.
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February 23rd, 2009, 02:33 PM
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Re: New Finnish OOB
Newest version is in testing and should be ready soon. There has been changes since 6.1, here's a list of some of them:
-Corps Artillery formation added (12 tube battalion used by high command, uses 130, 150, 152 K 89 and 155 K 83 guns)
-JSOW (C-version) used in Hornets 2010-->
-Cavalry is removed from use -47 (as mounted on horses that is, cavalry units remain, but they train dismounted like any other infantry)
-Added big bunch of vehicles (utility vehicles, trucks, prime movers) used by FDF. Most important models are added (thanks to Mäkipirtti's excellent books on subject I just received)
-Changed some naming routines in formations for simplicity's sake
-DM53-A1 (120mm L44 WG01, penetration 87) used 2007 -> (Rheinmetall (maker of the ammo) gives info that Finland and Denmark use DM53-A1 (in news archive 2006, about danish procure of DM33A2 PELE and DM53 and again about danish tests of DM53). In Finland the only source talking about buying of new ammunition is the Panssari -magazine 1/2004, which states that new "DM33A2 will be bought in 2007, and this is basically a DM63 with minor differences in propulsion, allowing it to be fired without changing the K600 recoil mechanism to the K900". With very little info available about this procurement (in Finnish sources only 1 mention with it seems wrong name given???), it seems quite certain DM53-A1 is used, as Rheinmetall knows to mention it...)
-13 new scenarios by me and Koh (+the previous ones and the Ulf's pack of 10 scenarios)
-plus a lot of minor fixes and tweaks
Zip
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March 25th, 2009, 02:58 PM
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Re: New Finnish OOB
Good work with Finnish forces weapons and vehicles!
I am truly sorry to rain on your parade BUT:
What TOE's (harjoitusmaaravahvuus A1) did you use since your formations do not always match official TOE documents from 1955 to 1990's.?
Good example is Pr80 organization that is a mix of Pr70 with different weapons.
Anyway, please don't take me wrong, you have done a huge job so far!
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