winSPWW2 v4.0 -- 3 CORRECTED OOBs - Page 3

Mobhack · #21 February 10th, 2010, 06:05 PM

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That would be Sweden vs. Anzac in 1944.

And it's interesting if it's an OOB mismatch. Never touched my OOB's except for patching to the different versions (checked and it said 4.0) and then installing the new 3 Ob's in the folder.

Did you patch the game and install OBs before you started the new game, not during the game & thus nuking the secure PBEM?

Andy

Hi Andy. The upgrading to 4.0 and installation of the new ob's according to the instructions were made first, and after that I set up the battle. This was just a test battle that I sent to Walrus to see if we could trigger the error message, and alas, we did.

The message is only received if an OOB is in conflict.

But neither ANZAC nor Sweden OOBS were affected by this OOB update. So I am at a loss to understand what happened.

Each of you should check that your OOB checksums for the 2 OOBS are in agreement. I knocked up a utility for this purpose (it does any .obf files). It may be handy for any future PBEM woes

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You can compare an OOB set by changing dir and pressing the generate checksums button again. Right click on the memo field and "select all" then right click and "copy" will put the memo text into the windows paste buffer and so you can drop the results into anything you need (email etc).

Cheers
Andy

2ndLt_Fjun · #22 February 10th, 2010, 06:22 PM

Thanks. I copied mine into a text file. I'll pass it over to Walrus to see how it compares.

Sgt_Walrus · #23 February 10th, 2010, 07:37 PM

Hi Andy
Thanks for your help.

I DL the checksum app...I get an error (ironically).

It says it cannot run because VCL50.BCP is missing / cannot be found.

Not sure what is up there.
I run XP Pro SP2. Firefox 3 browser.

This is annoying as I cannot order anyone else to help out with this.

Cheers
Jason

Sgt_Walrus · #24 February 10th, 2010, 07:56 PM

Hi Andy
Seeing as that checksum app didn't work for me.
I will send my OOBs to you.

The first is for v4.0 stock.
Both my v4.0 and v4.0+OOB fix shows the version information as
winspww2 V4.0-CD

I have zipped just the main .obf files...not the custom nor default folders.
I assume I have sent the ones you were interested in.

Hope this helps.

For the record, these should be identical.
One install was created from the other (full copy of game folder into a new dir).
I always create new installs like that and it works just fine for me for all my previous ww2 and MBT games.

Cheers
Jason

Imp · #25 February 11th, 2010, 12:01 AM

Just sent you a game Jason

Sgt_Walrus · #26 February 11th, 2010, 12:19 AM

Hi Guys
Thanks to Fred's help I have managed to generate data from my v4.0 and v4.0+OOB Fix
I was not aware that I had to extract the .exe into a SP game directory.
maybe that was obvious, but I didn't pick it.
Cheers Fred :-)

I attach them here.

I checked and there is no difference at all between our two sets of figures.
Only checked V4.0+OOB fix, as that was the only data that Fred provided.

So...the OOB mismatch seems to be fading away as the source of the problem?

Fred and I are trying another test with the OOB Fix using the newest OOB changes (USSR and USMC) to see if anything different happens with that.

Cheers
Jason

Sgt_Walrus · #27 February 11th, 2010, 01:50 AM

Hi
Sorry, that was Imp that helped with the Checksum thing.
Cheers John...sorry for the confusion.
Test game files are sent.

Mobhack · #28 February 11th, 2010, 05:37 AM

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Hi
Sorry, that was Imp that helped with the Checksum thing.
Cheers John...sorry for the confusion.
Test game files are sent.

The OOBS match in checksum, but that was not the checksum the test game that failed was returning (stored with the original setup).

I just ran through the code on the off chance that somewhere something was assigning the mob0_CheckSum or mob1_CheckSum to the wrong sort of variable - but all places use a long, as they should do.

So - assuming that you are using the same EXE (which should not matter since that checksum code has not changed since 2001 or so, nor has the encryption or basic file structure - and no new data blocks have been added since the Opfire block 2 years back or so).

So I cannot think of any reason for failure, other than someone having had a slip-up with the OOB at some point.

- Are both of you using the same operating system, or is one using say 64 bit windows 7?

- Are you both using the same file compression utility to pass the files (WinRAR or WinZip or whatever).

- And just as a final thought - no player is trying to "share" a PBEM slot for several ongoing secure mode games?. That is a recipe for disaster.

Cheers
Andy

Sgt_Walrus · #29 February 11th, 2010, 06:49 AM

Hi Andy

I cannot speak for the other guys.

- Are both of you using the same operating system, or is one using say 64 bit windows 7?

I use XP SP2 as my OS.
Have done for all previous versions of Panthers since you went to windows versions.

other than someone having had a slip-up with the OOB at some point.

No chance, I never touch the OOBs...always played stock. It's the best plan for PBEM.

- Are you both using the same file compression utility to pass the files (WinRAR or WinZip or whatever).

I use winzip to send. Always have. Never any trouble with the tens of different PBEM players over the last 9 years.
I sometimes get .rar in the mail...they don't make any difference at my end. Never had any issues.
These file were all made via winzip as far as I can see.

- And just as a final thought - no player is trying to "share" a PBEM slot for several ongoing secure mode games?. That is a recipe for disaster.

Not at my end. I have multiple installs of the CD version, so no need for that. Not aware of Fred doing that for these tests.

So...I will continue to pass data, at least for one more test with a different player.
It is most perplexing as it is a rash of error messages since v4.0. Impossible for everyone to suddenly be screwing around with their normally solid set-ups and ways of doing PBEM.
As I am a moderator at Blitz SP, I am always watching the boards, and I have never noted as many reports of this sort of thing before.

BTW...all my (3) MBT v 4.5 games are behaving rock solid while all this has been going on...so if it were some computer based issue (compression utilities, OS etc.) surely I would be seeing issues there too.

OK...cheers
jason

2ndLt_Fjun · #30 February 11th, 2010, 07:09 PM

Well, I haven't messed with the OOB's other than installing the patch. I had OOB issues with the 4.0 version, w/o the extra OOB patch. Since the previous game was Sweden vs. Anzac it shouldn't be affected anyway by the OOB patch if I understand things right?

I've managed to install the previous patches successfully and played a significant number of PBEM's without ever seeing OB errors. I'm not playing multiple games and the 000 slot was only used for the test game. I'm never playing 'full security' games and stick with 'basic security' since it seems more stable. I've installed 4.0 on two of my SPWW2 installations (yes, these were upgraded to the latest patch before 4.0 before installing) and both of these show the error message.

I run Win XP, latest upgrade, WinZip for sending the files (which always worked thus far).