winSPWW2 v4.0 -- 3 CORRECTED OOBs

[DRG]

This addition is no long required and has been included in the v4.25 mini update found on Shprapnel winSPWW2 download page

Don

[iCaMpWiThAWP]

Nice thanks, btw, stick this to the main forum for greater visibility

[Warhero]

Thanks Don.

[macnab]

Thanks

[Sgt_Walrus]

Hello All

There seems to be a possible issue with this OOB fix (or perhaps the v4.0 patch, though I doubt it) as I have had quite a few report from PBEM players at The Blitz getting OOB error messages when using the newest patch and OOB fix.

I have no file to pass along at this stage as I have no issues so far, but I have fielded a lot of complaints.

Has anyone else had any OOB error / security type error messages when playing PBEM with v4.0 + OOB fix?

Cheers
Sgt Walrus

[Imp]

I am guessing the problem is both players have ver 4.0 but only one the fix.
Perhaps a version 4.01 is in order to stop people having to ask.

[EpoletovSPR]

It is not necessary to place winSP in a folder " Program files ".
In Windows7 there are with it small problems. For example games it is difficult to insert into folder PBEM new Save-files.
I know, that it can be corrected, but for not skilled players the best variant to place game in a separate folder on disk C or D.

Also because of it it is difficult to replace OOB-files.
From it also there are problems.

[DRG]

Originally Posted by Sgt_Walrus

Hello All

There seems to be a possible issue with this OOB fix (or perhaps the v4.0 patch, though I doubt it) as I have had quite a few report from PBEM players at The Blitz getting OOB error messages when using the newest patch and OOB fix.

I have no file to pass along at this stage as I have no issues so far, but I have fielded a lot of complaints.

Has anyone else had any OOB error / security type error messages when playing PBEM with v4.0 + OOB fix?

Cheers
Sgt Walrus

We're damned if we do and damned if we don't. I could have just let this pass for a year but decided it was better to fix this. Do people want LaGG-3's carrying 6 1000 pound bombs or worse, a R-Z carrying 24 ??? THAT is why we issued the fix so we wouldn't get complaints of unfair advantage do to a simple OOB error.

Now that everyone is aware there can be conflict I would suggest a notice be posted informing people there have been corrected OOB's posted , with a link to the files, and that players are responsible for letting their opponents know if they have installed it or not.

Also, lets be clear on this, this fixed only involved THREE OOB's not the entire set

Poland
Russia
USMC

If anyone is PBEMing and the battles involve one or more of those OOB's then the players need to ask the simple question.... "have you installed the corrected OOB's ?"

And NO we are not going to furth compound the problem by issuing a 4.01 EXE and a patch for three OOB's

Don

[DRG]

Originally Posted by EpoletovSPR

It is not necessary to place winSP in a folder " Program files ".
In Windows7 there are with it small problems. For example games it is difficult to insert into folder PBEM new Save-files.
I know, that it can be corrected, but for not skilled players the best variant to place game in a separate folder on disk C or D.

Also because of it it is difficult to replace OOB-files.
From it also there are problems.

Yes, I know. We tell people that right in the patch installer. Putting the game in Program Files was not my idea. That was a requirement of Shrapnel. I was prepared right from the start to have it installed directly into the C: drive and had I been allowed to do that a huge number of headaches would have been averted.

Don

[Sgt_Walrus]

Don

I have posted at The Blitz (before I posted here) to all players that there was a new patch (v4.0) and also an OOB fix.
I linked to this site (where the files live)and also cut and pasted the installing instructions into the post at the Blitz.

Short of going to everyone's house and holding their hand while they install I do not know what more I can do.

Please take this seriously, it's not due to negligence on my, or our players, behalf.

Since I made the earlier post, I have been collecting data.

Since the v4.0 patch came out, there have been many mentions of error messages re. OOB...player one obat has changed and similar.

I have only one v4.0 (with no OOB fix) game going and as far as I know, there are no error messages. However, my opponent is a Spanish speaker and our communications are limited.

I have also run a test with a long time PBEM player. We have both v4.0 and v4.0+OOB fix installed.
I started both battles, made it to P1 T1 with no error...but just got the files back from Vesku and he is saying that both games are showing this message
player one obat has changed

EDIT: On opening my T2, there are error messages in both v4.0 and v4.0+OOB fix that P1 has a 'changed OOB'or similar.
When I opened T1 previously, there were no error messages.
It only seems to happen after P2 has opened their T1 (as opposed to the initial file swap and setting up of PW etc)

I know for a fact that I have changed nothing in my OOB (I always use stock OOBs) since v3.5
For both games to be showing the error shows that it is not just to do with the OOB fix.

There seems to be some sort of...dare I say it...bug here somewhere.

Games set up using Basic Security can be played by just ignoring the messages...but if the players wish to use Full Security...then they are stuck.

I attach both save game files.
My p/w for these games is axel

If you need Vesku's p/w...let me know and I will get it to you.

I hope that I provided enough info to prompt to you to have a look and see what is going on.
Please note that this is not some snafu due to the incompetence of the gamers...you know that I have been playing this game PBEM for years, and so have most of the guys that are recording these issues.

Regards
Jason - Sgt. Walrus