How do i get rid of this pretender ?

Bullock · #1 September 26th, 2011, 05:58 AM

Since most of my xp come from SP i have no idea how to get rid of this pretender.

I m playing abysia so i have high fire, blood & earth magic and a pretender with high astral.

I m actually overwhelming his troops but his pretender is jumping from a territory to another and ofc killing everything without a scratch.

I m thinking of doing a "bleed" rush, i saw somewhere else it can have good results on pretender, but i need to catch him ... Or stuffing my pretender with astral & magic piercing stuff and try some paralyzes while some troops with some cold protect go on him.

Any better idea ? maybe some crafting idea or SC?

GFSnl · #2 September 26th, 2011, 06:38 AM

Infernal Prison.

Soyweiser · #3 September 26th, 2011, 07:39 AM

Make his supporting army run away, taking away the surrounding provinces.

Also, 22 MR is rather low. If he doesn't have 100FR, blindness spam. With boosters and in a communion. (so you get even more penetration).

Just casting soul slay with a boosted pretender might be enough. (give the pretender some penetration boosters, and he will go down quickly). Rune smasher, ring of wiz/sorc, + spell focus, is already +4. Add a 16 slave communion for even more + astral and thus penetration. The 2 astral boosting spells. Assume base Astral 6.

That would give +4 penetration from items, +1 from the base level, +2 from the communion, +1 from the boosting spells. For a total of +8. Total roll he must resist 20 (base mr check is 12). Which gives a 30% chance of each soul slay spell killing him outright.

Just pilling on the horror marks might also work. And why is that dude not cursed yet? There is a D1 spell that does that.

Life for a life spam might also work. Iirc it does 40 AN unresistable damage.

Also, get some quickend thugs to dualwield the axe of hate. With a lot of attack boosters. If hit, an axe of hate does 50 fatigue damage iirc. So he will be unconcious in seconds. (Of course, the aegis is a problem, you need both high attack skill and high mr, expect to lose all thugs and this not to work. An Axe of hate, burning pearl, quickness and a ring of the warrior should give +16 attack. Summon some sleepers with starshine skullcaps and rainbow armors for a attack 31 mr 20 commander).

You could also try the spell that causes him to be attack by the souls of everybody he killed. Just cast it with a boosted caster. Forgot the name atm.

Bullock · #4 September 26th, 2011, 08:19 AM

Aahh that s a nice help.
The massive boost remind me some bad memories. ^^

I ll give a try of some of your tricks, if any1 has other ideas i m listening!

Soyweiser · #5 September 26th, 2011, 08:31 AM

Infernal prison is still the easiest option btw. Catching the guy is going to be the problem. You need to be able to guess where he is going.

Deathblob · #6 September 26th, 2011, 08:45 AM

Try Mind Hunt with your god. Those boots let him teleport around without a lab. Still, the Mind Hunt will catch him 50% of the time, depending on ritual cast order. Use Pen items like Soy suggested. Mind Hunt gets a secret Pen bonus that plain old Soul Slay doesn't have, too. When the god's in your dom, his MR is weaker. So continue to blood sac.

Bullock · #7 September 26th, 2011, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Soyweiser

Infernal prison is still the easiest option btw. Catching the guy is going to be the problem. You need to be able to guess where he is going.

Too bad i have 0 in this research cause i have a guys with blood 6 fire 3 and astral 3. he has everything needed to TP and cast.
I think i will keep this solution if others fail.

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Originally Posted by Deathblob

Try Mind Hunt with your god. Those boots let him teleport around without a lab. Still, the Mind Hunt will catch him 50% of the time, depending on ritual cast order. Use Pen items like Soy suggested. Mind Hunt gets a secret Pen bonus that plain old Soul Slay doesn't have, too. When the god's in your dom, his MR is weaker. So continue to blood sac.

Unfortunately we are fighting in what used to be his lands, to be more precise most of his remaining land are those with a fort on it, so the dom his him atm.
But i ll give a try to mind hunt also. ty

Fantomen · #8 September 26th, 2011, 09:21 AM

Your best bet is horrors i think. You can both spam him with send horror/lesser horror and teleport a bunch of warlocks on top of him scripted: call horror/call horror/returning. Make sure to take out all surrounding provinces and you just need to stack enough fear aura to make him retreat.

Fantomen · #9 September 26th, 2011, 09:32 AM

Also, don't get lured into blowing to much resources on this one guy. If you can just do more damage than him in the bigger picture his single badass sc won't cut it in the long run.

kianduatha · #10 September 26th, 2011, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Fantomen

Your best bet is horrors i think. You can both spam him with send horror/lesser horror and teleport a bunch of warlocks on top of him scripted: call horror/call horror/returning. Make sure to take out all surrounding provinces and you just need to stack enough fear aura to make him retreat.

Uhh, Morale 30 on the pretender means that stacking fear auras won't help. As an example, you can send 50 hydras against a(properly kitted) pretender god and it won't route.