I am bummed out - Page 2

UmberGryphon · #11 January 15th, 2001, 11:16 PM

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Originally posted by Blue Lord:
My conclusion is that there's a thing just like the MegaEvil empire setting that when your score is X % of the second, he'll surrender.

That's right. It's 1000% (ten times) their score for most AIs, and 5000% (fifty times) their score for the xenophobes (the Amon'Krie and the Sergetti).

See the topic "An analysis of the AI_Anger files in 1.19" for this information and lots of other good stuff.

Nyx · #12 January 16th, 2001, 07:19 PM

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wait till we can play humans..no easy kills much more interesting..grin..

Try hotseat sometime. Corrupt your friends if need be. It's grand fun. I've got a couple people I play hotseat with all the time. It's the most fun way to play, way better than any form of Online play because you're face-to-face and can trash talk all the time. Plus, if you lose, you can make your buddy appologize by buying you pizza.

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jonas · #13 January 17th, 2001, 12:45 AM

It does seem like the AI gives up too easily in some cases, like surrendering completely without a fight like you mentioned. Here's another example.

In one game, and even before I hit Evil Mega, though I was still the most powerful empire around, I took a chance and asked one of the neutrals on my doorstep to give me a settled planet in his system. To my surprise, he did. I waited a while, then I asked for another. Again, he gave it to me. He wound up giving me every planet in his home system except his homeworld, which I didn't bother asking for -- I just moved a fleet in and boom! Another application for membership in the Federation has been approved!

Well that went pretty well I thought, so with the next neutral I started the same process, this time asking for a planet as a "gift" every turn, and as his Last "gift", I asked for his homeworld, and I got it! I had to fight a few stray ships that no longer had home planets but that was about it.

Then I started the same process with a weak player empire, that had somehow never managed to get out of its own system. He started giving away planets too! But at that point, I wanted to actually use my rapidly-getting obsolete fleets in combat, so I just went in and stomped him.

The moral of the story I guess is that there should be some things you don't give away, no matter what.

Emperor Zodd · #14 January 17th, 2001, 01:03 AM

I think everytime a human player asks for a trade or a gift from an AI race,the AI should assume it's going to get f***ed and tell the human player to kiss his ***!

Tomgs · #15 January 17th, 2001, 02:19 AM

Well if I have every planet from an AI race blocaded and have destroyed all their ships then they probably should surrender to me. In real life it would probably work that way. Although there would probably be worse morale penalties for that than there are in the game now. And perhaps a few "freedom fighters" still holed up in the hills somewhere.

Socialist · #16 January 17th, 2001, 05:40 AM

Jubala,

yes..grin...only in Email..strategic combat..phoey heheee

yes..once TCP IP comes..we will get a good long game going

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Talenn · #17 January 17th, 2001, 07:40 PM

Are we even sure that TCP/IP play will include Tactical Combat? I wasnt sure that was a given at this point. Personally, I think its a must, but many have been the game that removed the tactical component in the interest of 'players wouldnt want to wait while others resolved their battles'.

Has anyone received definate info one way or the other yet?

Thanx,
Talenn

Jubala · #18 January 18th, 2001, 02:30 AM

Looking forward to it.