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Old December 13th, 2017, 07:10 PM

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Default Re: Soviet OOB 11: miscellaneous observations

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362 122mm 30 FH - better icon is 2115 - current has too long barrel (it was only L/15). Better name is "obr30 FH", or in fact "10/30 FH"
...to confirm this: upper view http://armor.kiev.ua/wiki/images/thu...2014_08_12.jpg
After re-thinking, better name than "obr30 FH" would be "obr.10 FH" - it was basically obr.1910, only modernized in 1930.

366 122mm 31 FG - better name is "obr31 FG". An icon is too light gun (and has a shield) - best seems 2123 (picture https://topwar.ru/uploads/posts/2012...35825_art2.jpg)
Winter icon seems an error.
Same for Polish LWP #158

367 122mm 31 Bty - same for the name

370 122mm M-30 FH - icon has too thin and long barrel for 122 mm howitzer, and doesn't resemble this piece at all. Best icon seems 2167 - it's also quite light, but has good proportions (picture http://technicamolodezhi.ru/rubriki_.../1971/art6.jpg)
Same for Polish LWP #154, German #133, Czech #186, Yugo #56, Hungarian #185, Finnish #182

385 37mm obr 15 IG - there is no info on 37mm infantry guns in a Russian encyclopedia on Russian WW2 artillery. Possibly it is trench gun Rozenberg obr.15 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/37_mm_trench_gun_M1915, but according to Russian Wikipedia https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/37-%D0...BE%D0%B4%D0%B0 it was withdrawn as soon, as in 1919. According to article https://web.archive.org/web/20070929....php?nid=18073 , unspecified 37mm guns were withdrawn from battalion artillery in 1931, as obsolete. Might be easily removed.
Same for #350

462 Jeep (AOP) - same remarks, as for #46 - delivered from mid-42, not counting Bantams.

466 ZiS Truck - same remarks, as for 45 (best icon is 3170/3172, with narrower body) (and without cargo, as personnel carrier)

517 T-26E
- first were made and used in combat in 2/40, by the end of Winter War (now 4/40). Armour should be better - 15 to 40 mm plates were used (without standardization), so I suggest 4/4/3/ 4/4/3. Drawings show extra armour on rear as well.

There should be also added screened OT-133 (might be called OT-133E), also used at the same time, starting from Winter War. It also should have lower speed.

BTW: according to Baryatynski's book, all T-26 flame tanks were in fact designated in documents KhT-26, -130, -133 ("Chemical tank"), and they are called OT in post-war literature. Probably the same applies to OT-27, which in a monograph is called by the author: "OT-27/KhT-27". Russian spelling XT-26 is tempting, but might be confusing

568 Maxim(x4) AAMG - it was accepted already in 1931
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%97...BE%D0%B4%D0%B0 , although there's no information, when exactly they started to appear (now 1/37). There's no information about less typical 569 Maxim(x2), but I assume it was the same.

586 STZ-5- speed was only 21 km/h (now 10)

588 76.2mm BPK RG - a picture is actually 65mm prototype RPG. Photos are here:
http://www.cris9.armforc.ru/rva_bpk.htm
http://lavandamd.ru/index.php?option...10-04-15-42-05
Officially adapted in 8/32.

593 OT-27 - according to Russian book, produced from late 1932 (now 6/35) (it had 32-36 l of mixture, enough for 30 shots or 28 seconds). It also should have DT BMG.

595 OT-131"exp" - it had a flamethrower and 45mm gun instead of CMG (according to M. Kolomiets book)
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