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Old March 20th, 2003, 06:28 PM

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Default Re: OT) Best Turn Based Game: Fantasy or Space or War

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use to think like you.... then I tried EU and EU2 and my world turned around. Europa Universalis 2 is labeled as a RTS and indeed in the game the days continously tick down. However there is a pause button which can be pressed and you can look over your empire and make all the orders you need. This game spans 400 years of history ticking one day at the time. The game includes over 100 independent nations which act each and every day. It would be impossible to make this game true turn based. IMO even if it is label as RTS it feels much more like playing a turn based game.
I know both EUs, and and played them and I tried to like them, but I cannot. I am too much a pure turnbased player. And originally EU was a turnbased game - at least the swedish boardgame.

The boardgame was not that complex like the computer game but for an old wargamer (ASL, Streets of Stalingrad, Advanced 3rd Reich to name just a few) complexity has no meaning.

So I think they could have developed a turnbased EU, but they decided to do not, because they feared that all those mainstream pseudo wargamers outthere didnt like the game. I am happy that there are at least some older wargame designs (and very few new ones) which are still turnbased. I have to restrict myself to these old games, but what should I do? Maybe sometimes the hyperactive RT action fashion is over and people come back and design real games, not real time games.

Klaus

[ March 20, 2003, 16:29: Message edited by: klausD ]
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