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Old January 8th, 2023, 10:32 PM
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Fallout Re: Ukraine 2021(?)

On the Ukrainian tanks numbers for that period those numbrs aren't out of line with some I've seen either up or down.

What is clear and reported by many "respectable" sources is that they have both replenished their loses and have more tanks then when the war started on 24 Feb. 2022.

Of the Russian captured tanks, I'm working on (More on this elsewhere.) for submission which are only 10 types (But have become a headache.) the total comes to 441 as of last Thur./Fri.

Unsubmitted to avoid duplication on tanks that are essentially equal to existing ones from both countries are left out, HOWEVER, it well known that the Ukraine are using them as well. That number is around 70 captured other types including approximately the same falling into the unidentified T-72/80 & 90 series tanks.

Total verified from the same last week is...
Tanks (1610, of which destroyed: 944, damaged: 73, abandoned: 60, captured: 533)

Total all categories is...
Russia - 8634, of which: destroyed: 5408, damaged: 219, abandoned: 298, captured: 2709.

I'm supplying the reference I'm NOT going to debate the merits of this information as I've even seen JANE's mention it and not in a bad way.

Use it as you wish and before you judge it, I would suggest you read the opening paragraph of this ref.
https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2022/0...equipment.html

Mark that was some good "Dope" you put out there.

As I was about to leave the ORNX site I came across this by accident "so the road appears to go both ways" which makes me even more comfortable.
https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2022/0...ukrainian.html

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