Deception

[Karacan]

Originally posted by Norfleet:
I don't think hacking or actually killing the other player is a very constructive exercise for the game at all, since if you disable a player entirely, you can't exactly host the game if he can't send in his turn.

Why not? So he's stalling, which shouldn't be an issue if you have a regular hosting schedule or are playing it the pbem way.

What is an issue, however, is that you deprive yourself from the ultimate goal of playing games at all: The deep, personal satisfaction of being able to openly gloat at your opponent's defeat (or worse, to congratulate him on being a good sport and claiming "It's all a game and of no consequence" - so you beat him and it didn't even matter to you...).

While you can gloat openly about having been able to remove your opponent from the game (assuming a non-terminal solution), it is often unwise to do so due to the likely illegal nature of the removing...


Oh, and the poll allows multiple choices by each person, Talisien. That means there's more selected choices going around than people having voted.

[Stormbinder]

Originally posted by DLC:
i wouldn't put it past anyone having faking his/her/its persona to do it once again.

*nod*

Exactly.

[ May 25, 2004, 18:56: Message edited by: Stormbinder ]

[Stormbinder]

Originally posted by Taliesin:
I know this is slightly off the topic but has anyone noted that the poll results give equal 115%?

Yes, that's because Reverend allowed more than one answer to be submitted. Although I suspect most pollers do not reilize this fact since it sounds somewhat countintuitive with his current 3 options.

[Cheezeninja]

i think its more amusing than anyone else. Yeah its kind of underhanded, but that fact that its created this giant hoopla of daytime television soap opera is hilarious. Its done nothing but maybe add another dimension to the trickery of this game, and i guarantee it wont be as successful next time.

[NTJedi]

Norfleet
What rules? The other games I'm in don't HAVE any rules.

When players sit down for a game of poker... if someone gives themself an edge by leaning backwards and looking into another players hand...... thats bending the rules. As a result when caught the other players will always look at you with distrust. What you did had the same effect.

Norfleet
Can you prove that was "pulling some dirty tricks just to try and win"? Or did I have other motives for perpetuating the deception which had nothing to do with winning or losing?

If you were hiding your identity and asking questions about other players actions towards your player in the game.... the knowledge gained will obviously provide you with an advantage. This advantage may determine who wins or loses the game.

[ May 25, 2004, 23:18: Message edited by: NTJedi ]

[Cainehill]

Originally posted by Chazar:

So in response to what Vynd contributed: I'd say trying to obtain the enemy's plans by means of polite conversation and deliberate deception is a part of the game for me. When it comes to the game, the game is always on, regardless of the situation I am in when talking about it.

I accept that my "enemy" might not always tell the truth about his intentions, as do I. You have to reveal something true in order to regain something true, but just how much is the parlous question.....

Exactly. When I've asked questions or advice for a game in progress, I generally try to put in enough misleading, erroneous information to not give away the actual game and situation I'm looking for feedback on, which has usually been a question about a magic item, spell, or game mechanic I hadn't used before.

Talking about plans, in the open, on IRC, where there's half a dozen other entities idling on channel, is practically begging to have information used against you.

When playing poker - proper players don't try to sneak looks at each other's cards. But if someone is setting their cards down face up on the table, it's a fool who doesn't look.

[Graeme Dice]

Originally posted by Cainehill:
When playing poker - proper players don't try to sneak looks at each other's cards. But if someone is setting their cards down face up on the table, it's a fool who doesn't look.

Except here the person who looked denied being a fellow player in the poker game.