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[Desert Fox]

I think Aaron would be better off seeking out Stardock and its TotalGaming.net subscription service to distribute the game. Strategy First is not very stable at all. This company that publishes SEIV and other titles is not very good at all. Never sold in stores or downloadable makes it very costly for anyone to get it in other countries. A South Africa mate of mine has to pay 65.00 to get SEIV.

This bashing Galciv is silly, two entirely different games at least on how they look and play. I LOVE both games and I find any negative comments toward Galciv or the GREAT Company who produced it is damn right stupid. Both games are outstanding. Sharpnel Games is not a very good company at all as many of their games are not, well popular. No offense to this fine site..

[Richard]

Desert Fox said:
I think Aaron would be better off seeking out Stardock and its TotalGaming.net subscription service to distribute the game. Strategy First is not very stable at all. This company that publishes SEIV and other titles is not very good at all. Never sold in stores or downloadable makes it very costly for anyone to get it in other countries. A South Africa mate of mine has to pay 65.00 to get SEIV.

This bashing Galciv is silly, two entirely different games at least on how they look and play. I LOVE both games and I find any negative comments toward Galciv or the GREAT Company who produced it is damn right stupid. Both games are outstanding. Sharpnel Games is not a very good company at all as many of their games are not, well popular. No offense to this fine site..

Well your entitled to your opinion, most of our games our multi award winning games in the industry and sell very well.

As far as the pricing issue, we did have some issues with pricing overseas when SE:IV first came out but those have long since been resolved. You can get it shipped in 3-7 days for 4.80 in shipping costs. We also have retail and mail order alternatives for many countries. In fact we have the largest non traditional retail distribution network of any online publisher.

Just wanted to set the record straight on that.

[tesco samoa]

you just need to start selling the game in canadian dollars

[Strategia_In_Ultima]

And that skill is rare. They could market it, hire themselves out to make companies go bankrupt for tax purposes!

[Derek]

Psyringe said:

Actually, SF had very little to do with GalCivs success, which was mostly fueled by the MoO3 disaster, a GalCiv flyer inside the MoO3 box, Brad Wardell's publicity, and word of mouth spreading fast. Many games stores would not have ordered GalCiv from Strat First if their customers, on returning MoO3, hadn't asked them for it (because they had heard about the game from other sources). So Strat First's contribution to GalCiv's success was basically to provide the game for a market that already wanted it. The chances that this special situation can be repeated for Space Empires V are very slim.

Well, we could always pay someone to develop a MoO4 which is even worse than MoO3 (not sure if that is really possible, making something worse than MoO3, that is...)

I'm still just hoping, as the Marine going to Iraq in June, that SE5 is released before then!

Dave

[narf poit chez BOOM]

Psyringe said:
Wow, this discussion finally got me out of lurking after 2 years.

Hello then.

[Thermodyne]

Psyringe said:


Also, as a response to the last posts above: I think there's really no need for bashing GalCiv here, as there's really next to no connection between GalCiv and Strat First despite the fact that Strat First distributed the game into retail (not via digital download, this was done by Stardock themselves) and refused to pay royalties. Also, I think that Space Empires and GalCiv are both very good examples of the 4x genre, and they complement each other nicely because they focus on different aspects. Personally, I'm glad we have both games.

Welcome to the forum. Perhaps you would care to elaborate on you 1st post defense of GC? What you call bashing, I call a waste of my money.

[Psyringe]

Thermodyne said:

Welcome to the forum. Perhaps you would care to elaborate on you 1st post defense of GC?

Hmm, I'd like to, but as I said, this thread isn't really the place for a discussion about the quality of GalCiv. This thread deals with Aaron's decision to choose Strat First as his distributor for Space Empires V, and neither Aaron nor Strat First had anything to do with the quality of GalCiv.

So I hold myself off from going into details here, and instead just state that both games have many strengths as well as some weaknesses, and I'm very glad that we have them both. Even better, they continue to thrive and develop - Space Empires V will be out this year, and the public beta of GalCiv 2 will start this month. What more can we wish for?

If you're interested in a more thorough comparison of the two games, just pm me, or perhaps point me to another thread where this doesn't feel off-topic.

[Azselendor]

I jsut cross my mind that shrapnel most likely does contracts game-by-game, so in reality there is a chance future SE games could return to Shrapnel

[Strategia_In_Ultima]

In my eyes the reason why MOO comes up in conversations and SE doesn't according to these guys, is that though SE is better than MOO, it is a niche game and therefore doesn't attract that much attention to itself. Moreover, there has been just about no marketing at all for SE.

And if S1st both
-ripped money off StarDock AND
-is bankrupt,
I guess that they have a REALLY poor accounting deptment. I mean, you withhold quite substantial amounts of money from a developer and then you go bankrupt?