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				 Re: Patch 3.23 
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				March 21st, 2009, 03:08 AM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Patch 3.23 
 This is for 3.23b patch- I was just playing LA Jomon in SP and it has repeatedly crashed to desktop between turns when it is generating turn 1 or 2 of one of the battles. I have tried to let it run and changed my orders that turn too to see if this would change the outcome but to no avail.  Is there a solution to this problem or is there a known cause? I'm wondering if it's a seduction battle or a void battle but I really have no idea.
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				March 21st, 2009, 04:04 AM
			
			
			
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					Originally Posted by secretperson  This is for 3.23b patch- I was just playing LA Jomon in SP and it has repeatedly crashed to desktop between turns when it is generating turn 1 or 2 of one of the battles. I have tried to let it run and changed my orders that turn too to see if this would change the outcome but to no avail.  Is there a solution to this problem or is there a known cause? I'm wondering if it's a seduction battle or a void battle but I really have no idea.
 Has anyone else encountered this?
 
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 |  There were two or three separate bugs, some of them intertwined. Forging certain items could crash to desktop and the seduction issue was apparently another. I don't know what exactly caused it, but Johan fixed it immediately upon getting game files where it manifested. On testing, the 3.23b worked perfectly, so there shouldn't be any more problems of this sort. |  
	
		
	
	
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				March 21st, 2009, 04:16 AM
			
			
			
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					Originally Posted by Edi  On testing, the 3.23b worked perfectly, so there shouldn't be any more problems of this sort. |  i.e., if you want help or to help, provide turn files and/or log messages. |  
	
		
	
	
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				March 21st, 2009, 07:44 AM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Patch 3.23 
 My concern with using a Matrix is that the Matrix 'casts' the spell before combat actually starts, and therefore a Master Matrix (without Slave Matrices) would automatically have to be cast before the Communion Slave spells, and thus a reverse communion wouldn't work at all.
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 I think your understanding is at fault there. In a particular round, the slaves can't take any action if a master has already cast a spell. The matrix only affects the first round (or more likely the zeroth round), and in that round it doesn't make any difference because there are no slaves yet anyway. |  
	
		
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 Ah, okay, llama, thanks.  As you can tell, the only reverse communions I've done have been by accident.  Thank you for this. |  
	
		
	
	
	
	
	
	
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