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Old September 6th, 2009, 09:36 AM

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Default Re: British Commando Units

What about using "half-squads" of 7 instead of "squads" of 13-14? I guess that with such a number the squads anyway acted more like two elements, the only question remains whether equal or rather "fire support" and "maneuver".
To show what I think, both Czechoslovakian army and German one used pre-WWII rather large sections of 13-14 men, that were divided between a ca. 4-5 men "machinegun team" servicing a LMG to suppress the enemy and the rest was "maneuver team" to move in close.
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An additional thought:

By leaving the Royal Marine Commando Troop as is, we still have a Commando Troop with small support units attached, and the less traditional organization, and perhaps a more accurate representation of a 'raiding party'.

An updated 'conservative' Army Commando Troop would be more representative of how these units were organized when they fought on the front line in a more traditional role.


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Default Re: British Commando Units

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An additional thought:

By leaving the Royal Marine Commando Troop as is, we still have a Commando Troop with small support units attached, and the less traditional organization, and perhaps a more accurate representation of a 'raiding party'.

An updated 'conservative' Army Commando Troop would be more representative of how these units were organized when they fought on the front line in a more traditional role.


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One way to do it.

SP is based on an individual element being the squad/section, and that any action at less than a section level is not modelled. A section/squad is the 'centre marker' for any individual teams that may move off 50-100 metres under the section corporal's command but the player (and AI) do not need to worry about sub-minor tactics like that.


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After thinking about - and discussing - the concerns and possibilities, I believe the main problem springs from the early SP designers attempt to model the company level Commando Troop as a large platoon and the battalion level 'Commando' as a large company.

If we did away with the battlion level Commando formation, no one would miss it. You could still build a Battalion sized Commando formation by purchasing 5 Troops (companies).

Then we could model an Assault Section (platoon) as three sections; and a company level Troop as seven sections:

Assault Section (27 or 30 men):

1x Platoon HQ (9/10 men)
1x Section (9/10 men)
1x Hvy Weapons/Support/Engineer (9/10 men)

Commando Troop (63 or 70 men):

1x Coy HQ (9/10 men)

2x Assault Sections (54 or 60 men)

The above suggestion would bring the Commando units in line with other SP formations. And it would be cool to have usable Commando formations. They are one of the best known units in one of the most used OOB, but the current formations are hardly even good for Scenarios, and no one uses them in PBEM, well not twice anyway ;-)

I guess this is mostly a repeat of my post two posts ago, but I just wanted to clarify my thoughts a little.

Those that also want smaller (4 men) sections can purchase and attach scouts, or use the RM Commando Troops.

Alright, I'll shut up now

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