British Commando Units

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Originally Posted by Marek_Tucan

What about using "half-squads" of 7 instead of "squads" of 13-14? I guess that with such a number the squads anyway acted more like two elements, the only question remains whether equal or rather "fire support" and "maneuver".
To show what I think, both Czechoslovakian army and German one used pre-WWII rather large sections of 13-14 men, that were divided between a ca. 4-5 men "machinegun team" servicing a LMG to suppress the enemy and the rest was "maneuver team" to move in close.

Hi Marek,

The Germans and Russians have plenty of 13 and 12 men sections in SP. Most of the Japanese infantry are 12 men sections.

SP doesn't usually split squads/sections into their two fire teams of say 3 men (LCorp, LMG and loader) and 7 men (Corp/Sgt with 7 rifles).

I don't think going down to that mirco-level works that well in this game. It probably would work ok if ALL sections in SP were organized like that. And there's the additional team for an officer to rally.

But keep in mind that a section usually sits in a 50M hex (approx. 250 Sq M). The LMG probably isn't going to be far from the rifles, and IRL if the LMG was KO'd a rifle would take over the LMG, which is how SP roughly works. If the LMG is seperate and the LMG is KO'd it's gone.

Originally Posted by Mobhack

Some other points re the conversation in general:

1) in SP it is a bad idea to have dedicated identifiable infantry elements (or silly command tanks) as HQs since those are immediately branded with a 'kill me first' badge to OPFOR non-AI players.

Agree. A good reason to go with 5 same size sections, similar to how most SP infantry platoons/HQs are represented. Which is one of my points/concerns, that the Army Commando Troop would be better represented if it was brought in line with other infantry units in SP.

Originally Posted by Mobhack

2) British APC seem to have a 12 person lift maximum. A CDO split into say 13 man lumps could not use half-tracks, light trucks or kangaroos, but would fit on tanks (13 man lift) and medium trucks. Terrapins do 25 men, so could not quite handle 2x13 man elements in an amphib assault.

Good point, I hadn't even thought of this.

Originally Posted by Mobhack

You should probably work on 12 man lumps, and post any excess to the platoon and coy HQs to make normal sized sections and some attachments down to same (Bn level snipers, REME drivers, signallers etc)

Andy

If the Army Commando Troops had five 12 men sections that would be 60 men which is about right for a historical formation of 60 to 66 men, a couple of whom were runners or medics and not represented in SP.


cheers,
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