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Old January 23rd, 2001, 11:07 PM

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Default Re: Surrender Changes

What they would probably agree to is something in between "subjugation" and "surrender", as they are today.

Of course, I also think that "subjugation" should mean more than just paying 40% of their income to you. It should be like a one-way military alliance, in which you see all their systems and can use their refueling depots, but not vice versa.

This new state in between "subjugation" and "surrender" would be like subjugation except that you basically control both empires. They are now an "autonomous region" or some such in your empire. You get 1/2 their resources. They still have a separate resource, research & intel pools of their own, but they have to give you any new techs they discover. They won't give you planets, ships, units or resources (beyond the 50% tariff). You can give them things if you want. Their diplomatic stance to the rest of the galaxy matches yours. You control their research que, production ques, etc... Their ships & units still use their graphics, but you control them. They now move during your turn, under your direction.
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Old January 23rd, 2001, 11:59 PM

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SMAC had that. If you beat someone enough, or got far enough ahead of an ally, they entered a special diplomatic relationship called "submissive" toward you. They still existed and still had their turn, but they agreed with you in all things (until they got back on their feet or someone else crushed you).

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