"Gamey" tactics like "Rock, none" races

[geoschmo]

PvK, you are taking the RPS thing way too seriously. It's an analogy. Nobody is saying SEIV is just like RPS in all ways. There are no RPS forums. There is no PBW for RPS. There are no RPS Mods.
RPS balance mod: See if I hold my hand like this, it's a stapler. Stapler beats paper.

Geoschmo

[ December 28, 2002, 14:38: Message edited by: geoschmo ]

[Fyron]

I think you are missing the point of an analogy. It does not say that A is B, it says that A is similar to B in some way. There is a huge room for difference between A and B. SE4 is not RPS, it is just vaguely similar in one single way, in that there is no uber-tactic. All tactics have counter-tactics, but it is not as simple as RPS.

[PvK]

Yeah, you guys are basically right - I'm bemoaning the term, which has the wrong associations for me, and nothing you folks are intending. So, this is not the best forum for whining about it.

The expression "Rock/Paper/Scissors" can be interpreted so many ways, that it's nearly meaningless unless accompanied by a more specific discussion, which here it almost always is. I guess it mainly bugs me because I have seen so many game industry professionals who seem to be dumping millions of game dev bucks into lame repetetive designs according to moronic adherence to formulae. Formulaic RTS + primitive RPS = crapware from heck, more often than not.

PvK

[Thei R'vek]

Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:

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Originally posted by Thei R'vek:
Then play a 0 Racial Point game.

That doesn't address the issue of determining what is relatively more valuable than what (ie: what should cost more, what should cost less). All it does is give you fewer points to spend.

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I will admit that it gives you fewer points to spend but it also forces you to make some tough decisions about what is most valuable to you since you MUST take a lower ability in one or more areas to get a bonus in one or more areas.

[TerranC]

Originally posted by Thei R'vek:
I will admit that it gives you fewer points to spend but it also forces you to make some tough decisions about what is most valuable to you since you MUST take a lower ability in one or more areas to get a bonus in one or more areas.

No, not really. You can take down Physical Strength, Environment resistance, Organic Extraction, Repair Aptitude, and Political Savvy without much penalties to your race. You can also take down Intelligence in high tech games, and Cunning in no intel games. Take down anything else and it means sure defeat.

[Wardad]

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[ December 29, 2002, 04:05: Message edited by: Wardad ]

[geoschmo]

That website is a hoot. It is so well crafted and professional looking I can't tell if it's for real or just a big joke. Thanks for the link Wardad.

Geoschmo