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January 1st, 2003, 07:33 PM
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Re: Word of Mouth Has Killed
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In my opinion, Nemesis is the third best Star Trek movie after Wrath of Khan and First Contact.
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First contact was a good movie, but it hardly compares with The Undiscovered Country and the Voyage Home, which are both better than Wrath of Khan.
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January 1st, 2003, 08:02 PM
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Re: Word of Mouth Has Killed
DarkHorse's Movie Reviews: Star Trek Edition (TM)
Star Trek: The Special Effects Nightmare
Somewhere in here was a decent plot, lost in hours of meaningless fly-by sequences.
Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan
Kicked @ss start to finish. The best villain ever in the ST universe. Best part; none of the characters were played for cheap laughs.
Star Trek III: The Search for Spock
Not too bad, but weak plot-wise as they were forced to write an entire movie to resurrect Nimoy's career after he decided he didn't want to be dead after all. At least they still didn't play any characters for cheap laughs, although Klingon Captain Ignatowski was stretching credibility somewhat.
Star Trek IV: The Beginning of the End
Horrible. Ridiculous. And to make matters worse, they resurrected the recurring thorn-in-the-side of Time-Travel (TM), the universal schtick of trying to make a movie interesting by introducing ludicrous plot devices that cause infinitely more problems than they solve. And here we first see our beloved characters played for cheap laughs. Unforgivable.
Star Trek V: Get Shatner Away From The Script!
Even worse than IV. What on Earth were they thinking!?!
Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country
A serviceable attempt to right the ship. Still playing characters for cheap laughs, but at least the overarching theme (cold war ends) was timely for once and fairly well done. Shakespeare spouting Klingons (how would they have even known about the Bard?) was again stretching credibility, but Captain Sulu to the rescue! That was a good touch, and fun to watch the Excelsior kick some butt. Extremely hokey ending, though.
Star Trek VII: Generations
Had it's moments, but this Nexus thing struck to much of Time-Travel (TM) hokiness. And Shatner...is still Shatner. The juxtaposition of Shatner and Picard was a little unnerving, at best; one guy who takes his role seriously, and one guy apparently unable to take anything seriously makes for some diluted chemistry. Ominous trend of playing Cmd Data for cheap laughs begins. How dare you screw with my favorite character!?!
Star Trek VIII: First Contact
Ugh, more Time-Travel (TM) hokiness. However, silly impossible plot devices aside, there was still some butt-kicking action here and there, and decent acting (for once) from the supporting cast. Still playing characters for cheap laughs, though. (EDIT: and Zephram Cochrane was from Alpha Centauri, not Earth; Paging Continuity Dept: Please come in, Continuity Dept)
And another thing... what's with this Borg Queen silliness? The coolest thing about the Borg, the thing that made them the second best Trek villain since Khan, was their utter alien-different-ness. They reeked of cool, just because they were here to kick your butt, then assimilate it, AND they were relentless, AND the best part: you couldn't just shoot there leader and declare victory like so many slovenly enemies out there. Now comes the movie, and voila, kill the Queen and they all die. Now they're just normal follow the leader villains. That kinda smacked of hokiness.
Star Trek IX: Insurrection
This was so dull I don't even remember enough about it to review it. I vaguely remember it sucking.
Star Trek X: Nemesis
Haven't seen it yet, may never due to the reviews.
Thanks for joining me for this review session. Hope you enjoyed it!
[ January 01, 2003, 18:08: Message edited by: DarkHorse ]
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January 1st, 2003, 08:54 PM
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Man Darkhorse ...a bit mean there huh?
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Re: Word of Mouth Has Killed
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I think if we see a new ST movie it will probably be about the cast of Enterprise.
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Hmm... T'Pol on the big screen... 
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Re: Word of Mouth Has Killed
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quote: Originally posted by geoschmo:
I think if we see a new ST movie it will probably be about the cast of Enterprise.
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Hmm... T'Pol on the big screen... I kinda like Hoshi, personally. T'Pol's boy-hair just doesn't do it for me 
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January 1st, 2003, 09:04 PM
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Re: Word of Mouth Has Killed
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Man Darkhorse ...a bit mean there huh?
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Wasn't really trying to be mean, but I gotta call's 'em as I see's 'em.
I'm still a Trek fan, I just wish they'd take themselves at least a little seriously, for a change. Enterprise seems to be doing pretty decent so far, I hope it doesn't devolve into a soap opera like some other series' have.
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In peace there's nothing so becomes a man as modest stillness and humility.
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January 1st, 2003, 09:43 PM
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Re: Word of Mouth Has Killed
Actually, reports from overseas for ST:X are doing very nicely. It flopped in the US sadly.
It could have done worse. Pinnochio (spelling?) flopped big time and only took 229K on it's opening weekend.
[ January 01, 2003, 19:44: Message edited by: Hadrian Tyrael S. Aventine ]
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