OT: New Brazilian President

[Phoenix-D]

Pet peeve: the USA is NOT a democracy. It's a republic. The difference is in a democracy majority rules, period. A rebublic, aside from having elected representatives, gennerally has limits on what the majority can do.

Phoenix-D

[Angelicans/Romiians]

Originally posted by Phoenix-D:
Pet peeve: the USA is NOT a democracy. It's a republic. The difference is in a democracy majority rules, period. A rebublic, aside from having elected representatives, gennerally has limits on what the majority can do.

Phoenix-D

The Majority means something in places? Wow!

[Wizarc]

Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
Well let's see. The government is controlled/occupied by 2 massive parties that get closer and closer to the same thing with each passing year. There is no chance in heck of someone that is not a member of one of those parties getting into major political office. Either in it, or an "independant", which really doesn't mean much, as independants still normally maintain close ties with one party or the other. Only 2 parties doesn't seem very democratic to me.

The only way to get into major political office is to have a lot of money. So, it is very near impossible for people not affiliated with one of the 2 major parties to win. More money = closer to victory. I am not saying that more money = victory, I am just saying that you have to have a huge amount of money to spend on the campaign. The parties then only listen to those people that give them lots of money. Ie: ludicrously rich people, huge corporations, etc.

Money buys power. Ethics, policies, character, etc. take a back seat to money in American politcs. Seems rather un-democratic to me; almost like a Plutocracy.

I agree with you. The US should have a minimum of three parties and money should be removed from the equation. All the parties should have equal opportunity to speak their views to the people...all the people through all available media equally. In the end it is our money they use for their agenda.

Congratulations on your new president and democracy in Brasil.

[ January 02, 2003, 03:10: Message edited by: Wizarc ]

[SamuraiProgrammer]

We almost had a third party with Ross Perot & his running mates...

Unfortunately, the media spent a lot of time equating having a different opinion to being a crackpot.

Now we (again) only have 2 viable parties.

I was never so ashamed of being an American as I was the day after the vice-presidential debate. Admiral Stockdale had a Vietnam flashback in front of God & everybody and all we could do (as
a group) was poke fun at him.

-- AND --

Did you ever notice that President Bush (the Last one) was pro NAFTA and the Democratic leadership was against it.. and as soon as Bill Clinton got elected HE was pro NAFTA and the Republican leadership was against it?

Reminds me of the shell game.

Again, best wishes Brazil.

[Fyron]

The parties are becoming more and more the same thing with each passing year.

The media is too ultra liberal to give an unbiased account of anything.

[Phoenix-D]

"I agree with you. The US should have a minimum of three parties and money should be removed from the equation. All the parties should have equal opportunity to speak their views to the people...all the people through all available media equally. In the end it is our money they use for their agenda."

There's this little problem with that called the first amendment. And really, every law on this made, ways are found to skirt it, which means more restrictions are called for, which- etc etc etc.

Phoenix-D

[Desdinova]

congratulations to brasil.

i agree with Phoenix-D about us being a Republic.
i think there should be a none of the above option on the ballot.

edit: from tesco Samoa's horrorscope for today

Aries: (March 21—April 19)
You know, the stars are beginning to suspect that it is no longer possible for a competent person to be elected president of this nation.

Thats me.

[ January 02, 2003, 06:32: Message edited by: desdinova ]