New Strategy: Drones with Subverters !

Mephisto · #1 January 3rd, 2003, 11:36 AM

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Originally posted by Ruatha:
There seems to be an AI race that uses Drones with subverters on a regular basis.
Alligience subverters don't require shields to be down.

The Torons.

Ruatha · #2 January 4th, 2003, 02:13 AM

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Originally posted by PvK:
Boarding parties aren't units, they're components.

Hmm, sorry, didn't think of that!

Arkcon · #3 January 3rd, 2003, 03:00 PM

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Originally posted by RiTz21:

Now an important question: If the Master Computer of a ship is destroyed, can that ship be captured by the Subverter ??

RiTz21
P.S. I did not try with boarding Parties... but I suspect it would be similar...

For now, yes. After the next patch, no. The plan is for the Master Computer to function like an antisubverter component, intact or destroyed.

It's only fair, really, if subverter drones are around.

Cirvol · #4 January 3rd, 2003, 04:42 PM

is it just me or is the subverter too powerful a weapon?

i mean seriously, all the psychic race needs to do is match up destroyers vs battleships, 1 for 1, and win with subverters...

it seems WAY unbalanced imho, (i don't like using master computers, because they are expensive, and really only cost effective on ships larger than battleships)

Arkcon · #5 January 3rd, 2003, 04:53 PM

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Originally posted by Cirvol:
is it just me or is the subverter too powerful a weapon?

i mean seriously, all the psychic race needs to do is match up destroyers vs battleships, 1 for 1, and win with subverters...

it seems WAY unbalanced imho, (i don't like using master computers, because they are expensive, and really only cost effective on ships larger than battleships)

It's just you.

Oh, I'm kidding. This comes up a lot. But it's not as easy as it looks. Combat still has to happen, ships must close and not be shot out, etc.

Just a little FYI, the master computer saves space in larger hulls and higher tech levels. And for baseship or starbase, with their 3 life supports and 3 crew quarters – MC actually costs less

DarkHorse · #6 January 3rd, 2003, 06:03 PM

I like to put subverters on satellites, then put a mountain of them at the warp points as a welcoming committee. "Welcome to the party folks, check your ships at the door". They work well on weapon platforms also, which extend their range even further than satellites do.

Edit: typo

[ January 03, 2003, 16:21: Message edited by: DarkHorse ]

Arkcon · #7 January 3rd, 2003, 08:18 PM

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Originally posted by DarkHorse:
I like to put subverters on satellites, then put a mountain of them at the warp points as a welcoming committee. "Welcome to the party folks, check your ships at the door". They work well on weapon platforms also, which extend their range even further than satellites do.

Edit: typo

Yeah, you're smart enough to scrap what you can't afford. The AI doesn't, and soon chokes under it's own maintenance costs.

The drones and ships subvert what's already in enemy territory. So the AI can use them against you.

If someone insists on loading sats with the subverter ... I say, let him have some ships. Try 20 1 engine no weapon escorts. Or perhaps a dreadnought, 1 engine, lots of stellar manipulators ... no supply.

[ January 03, 2003, 18:23: Message edited by: Arkcon ]