Can't get more than 5 neutral races

[Alari]

Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
It is quite possible that only allowing 5 neutrals in a game was an intentional feature, you know. Shouldn't be IMO, and the fact that there is no mention of it anywhere would suggest that it wasn't intentional, but you never know.

in data/settings.txt:


Minimum Neutral Player Low Setting := 1
Maximum Neutral Player Low Setting := 5
Minimum Neutral Player Medium Setting := 5
Maximum Neutral Player Medium Setting := 10
Minimum Neutral Player High Setting := 10
Maximum Neutral Player High Setting := 15


... these settings exist. If it was hard-coded why would they be here? (My Version of these are modified. Dunno what the original settings are)

And whether a bug is minor or major is a matter of perspective, isn't it? Granted, show-stoppers like crashes and such would be agreed to be major by all. You think the TDB bug is major whereas I don't even remember what that stands for.

[ September 08, 2003, 03:30: Message edited by: Alari ]

[Fyron]

The settings do work, just not over 5. Try putting them on 1 or something.

TDB = Time Distortion Burst, a Temporal weapon. That was definitely a show-stopper and required using a mod to remove the 4x to shields ability.

[Alari]

Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
The settings do work, just not over 5. Try putting them on 1 or something.

TDB = Time Distortion Burst, a Temporal weapon. That was definitely a show-stopper and required using a mod to remove the 4x to shields ability.

You know that they don't work properly. If one neutral was what I was trying to get, I wouldn't be here, would I?

And from what you described, TDB seems to be a less major bug than the number of neutrals. After all, it can be fixed by a mod, whereas I can't get the number of neutrals over 5 no matter what I do.

[Fyron]

And whether a bug is minor or major is a matter of perspective, isn't it?

Yes, and the perspective that matters is that of MM. Not that I speak for MM or anything.

[Fyron]

Originally posted by Alari:

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Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
The settings do work, just not over 5. Try putting them on 1 or something.

TDB = Time Distortion Burst, a Temporal weapon. That was definitely a show-stopper and required using a mod to remove the 4x to shields ability.

You know that they don't work properly. If one neutral was what I was trying to get, I wouldn't be here, would I?

And from what you described, TDB seems to be a less major bug than the number of neutrals. After all, it can be fixed by a mod, whereas I can't get the number of neutrals over 5 no matter what I do.

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TDB was fixed. It was a major issue because it had the potential to ruin dozens of PBW games. And it is not the only bug of such severity to have appeared over the years (not been discovered, but appeared accidentally). Neutrals are fairly pointless as they are very easy to overrun. Having a lot of them just makes the game really easy to win. This is why I said that the number of neutrals is a minor issue. Much better off playing multiplayer.

I don't see why we are still arguing about this. We both want it fixed.

[Alari]

I would think it would be the perspectives of their customers, the ones who pay for their software and keep them in business. ^.^

But like I said, I support small game companies when I can.

edit: and I want it fixed too. :> I didn't realize we were arguing. But I don't think neutrals are pointless, and from what I've heard they can be made fairly challenging with the right AI files.

[ September 08, 2003, 04:06: Message edited by: Alari ]

[Fyron]

If one person complains about a relatively minor feature, it is not a big priority. If a lot of people complain, it becomes a higher priority. There are probably a lot more critical things to work on than number of neutrals. MM has limited time and all.