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		Yea the EB is a bad one.  Trading planets every 8 turns is not a good one.  But it takes two players.  Other than that it all depends on the flavour of the game.  If your in doubt ask the game admin.   
 
One PBW ethic i do not like is the sneak attack when you attack the planets and declare war the same turn... And by pass mines. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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		There is a differance between ethics and tactics.  That is a tactic to bypass the mines.  I don't like it, but I'd do it if I felt it was needed to gain the upper hand.  (Damn, I wish they would install and evil smily face.) : 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		The EB thing seems to to bothersome, trading planets.. I mean, my population wouldn't think fondly of me if I gave them away every now and then! And to keep track of which planet to trade and when. That exploit I consider a bug. 
 
I agree though with Geo that it would be more fun without tech sharing, in a game I use it profoundly as all other partnerships seems to do it aswell. Otherwise I'd be hopelessly left behind. 
The Homecoming 2 game that is about to start seems to be fun as it doesn't allow that or science treaties. 
 
Btw, everyone is ethical, no one is without ethics! It's just that the ethics differs, what you might find as bad ethics someone else finds acceptable, that doesn't mean they don't have any ethics. 
  
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		EB 
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		EB is an ackernim for an exploit.  Many of us have been asked not to spread it around.  So I will not go into detail about it.  Lets just say that it has been around for a long while, and if used would allow a player an unfair advantage.   
 
Most players do not use it, and when they do, you'll know about it.  Trust me. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		I agree with Geo that allowing tech trades is a bore. I wont play in games which allow it any more since they just produce a mad rush to the endgame with everyone having the same techs. The one game I play in also dissallows trading of pop so that you actually have to capture some enemy to get different breathers. I like this too. 
 
The trouble with the ethics proponants is that they dont seem to realize that what may be unethical to them is just a game exploit to others. Then someone gets called a cheat becuase they don't conform to the ethics proponants view of what is wrong and right, then everyone gets mad or upset, then the game is spolied. This has happened to me on numerous occasions. I only now play with a known group of guys. It is intense and cutthroat but there is no name calling and character sluring. I have found that the easiest resolution is for the game host to clearly state which features/expolits/whatever of the game are not allowed, and that everything is fair game. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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				This form of "diplomacy" is badly looked upon, and debates morals and ethics of the game, and the players, who engage in such activities.  
 
Some games ban it outright, either by convention, or by banning all tech trading through the use of the ?game options panel.
			
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 This needs to be removed/editted ASAP. Only some people look badly upon sharing technologies. Most people I have played with have not been opposed to it. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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