PBW ethics, opinions please.

Phoenix-D · #1 January 10th, 2003, 11:45 PM

"Yeah, well, MM made it so you can't do it anymore, so I guess it is an exploit, innit?"

You can still open warp points to adjactant systems, and it's still quite possible to build a more efficent warp network..so no.

Phoenix-D

Fyron · #2 January 10th, 2003, 11:47 PM

Bug exploits are bad though.

I tend to include a clause whereby all known bug exploits are Banned in my games. Then, I add new ones to the list as I find out about them.

gravey101 · #3 January 10th, 2003, 11:54 PM

Right, and that's the only way to do it IMO. I woudn't play in a game again where the host didnt do that. Cuts out all the subjectiveness and leaves the nastiness and insults to the battlefield where they should be.

couslee · #4 January 11th, 2003, 12:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by CNCRaymond:
EB is an ackernim for an exploit. Many of us have been asked not to spread it around. So I will not go into detail about it. Lets just say that it has been around for a long while, and if used would allow a player an unfair advantage.

Most players do not use it, and when they do, you'll know about it. Trust me.

Gee THANKS from all the No0Bi3z. thats like saying
"Your in danger!"
"how so?"
"not telling"
"WHY?"
"Well, when you cut your thumb off, you will know why. Trust me"

geoschmo · #5 January 11th, 2003, 01:00 AM

couslee, it's not a matter of keeping something secret so it can be used against newbies. Bugs are often not discussed openly in the forums until they are patched out to keep unethical people from becoming aware of them and exploiting them.

It's not to keep it secret from you, it's to keep it from being used against you.

Geoschmo

[ January 10, 2003, 23:02: Message edited by: geoschmo ]

tesco samoa · #6 January 11th, 2003, 01:20 AM

well spoken geo.

DavidG · #7 January 11th, 2003, 01:21 AM

As far as I am concerned all 'exploits' in PBW should be allowed unless explicitly Banned by the host. (now before you flame me please finish reading). Because who's to say what an exploit is or what is just a good legal strategy? I read an old post were a certain racial characteristic combination was called an exploit?? WTF?? As far as I am concerned if the game lets you do it it is legal. I do not know what the EB exploit is but I think I know what the TDM one is (and No I would not use this because it is an obvious bug) BUT If I happen to be a player who does not read these forms and use the TDM weapon I would be seriously pissed if I got accused of cheating. And what about non obvious bugs? Say I'm playing pre ver 1.78 (and again don't follow this forum closely) and discover that I can launch mines as long as less than 100 were in orbit. Shall I be considered unethical or a cheater if I do so? Heck I once got accused of cheating for picking the Ancient Race trait.

IMHO the bottom line is that if an 'exploit' is considered unethical it should be made clear by the host prior to the start of a PBW game. And although I can understand why keeping exploits a secret is desirable by some I think they should be made public so we could agree to ban them or at least know when they've been used against us and if allowed in the future to defend against them.