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January 11th, 2003, 01:44 AM
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Re: PBW ethics, opinions please.
I find this an interesting thread. I really think there are few outright cheats in this game. And they all involve hacking.
I do know one player that has a list of folks he will play and not play with. I think that is a very good Idea. I also get the impression that as a community we have managed to keep it fairly clean. My hat is off to all of us.
Exploiting the internal mechanics of the game is a much slippery issue. knowingly using an obvious bug that gives an unfair advantage should get you on the blacklist. But trading for tech, forming alliances, and the Sneak attack are all valid 'choices'.
Any one want to start a poll? On what is gamey or not gamey?
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Multiple ship training faclities on several planets to reduce your training time. Gamey? or not gamey?
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January 11th, 2003, 01:47 AM
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Re: PBW ethics, opinions please.
What is this term Gamey? Never heard of it before, it seems to be bad?
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January 11th, 2003, 01:48 AM
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Re: PBW ethics, opinions please.
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Multiple ship training faclities on several planets to reduce your training time. Gamey? or not gamey?
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Well... the facilities do say "One Per Planet effective", and not "One Per Sector". So, there is no reason why you can't have more than one working in a sector on different planets. I do not know if this was intentional or not on the part of MM, but that is how it is IMHO. 
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January 11th, 2003, 01:49 AM
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Re: PBW ethics, opinions please.
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Originally posted by Gozra:
Multiple ship training faclities on several planets to reduce your training time. Gamey? or not gamey?
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Define "gamey"...
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January 11th, 2003, 01:50 AM
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Re: PBW ethics, opinions please.
Issue is not that the game allows it. The issue is if it is gamey or not. Grin and I feel what gamey is just have a hard time explaining it.
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January 11th, 2003, 01:52 AM
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Re: PBW ethics, opinions please.
I will take a stab at it.
How about: you would be not to do this in the real SEIV Universe but in the SEIV game you do it to get an advantage.
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January 11th, 2003, 01:59 AM
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Re: PBW ethics, opinions please.
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Originally posted by Gozra:
I will take a stab at it.
How about: you would be not to do this in the real SEIV Universe but in the SEIV game you do it to get an advantage.
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This is astart, but in some cases you have to be able to define what could or could not be done in a hypothetical "SEIV universe". Some things in the game are limitations for game play reasons, not any kind of "laws of the alternate universe" reasons.
Training facilities on moons are one of these. The mines per sector thing is another.
Basically a lot of these are subjective, there is no way around it. "I don't know art, but I know what I like". So the idea of playing with a core group of players you know and are comfortable with is a good idea if these things bother you a lot. Of course that can make it more difficult for new players to get a game, but eventually they will get enough people to give them a chance, and then they can earn a good reputation.
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