PBW ethics, opinions please.

tbontob · #1 January 13th, 2003, 03:38 AM

Wanderer

A part of your posting...
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I believe the Last Turkish battleship had a crew of 2 for several years (an old captain and his dog!) before the government decided to scrap it.
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What rank did the dog have? And did it have a salary?

Fyron · #2 January 13th, 2003, 03:45 AM

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I'd like the training to be more important, perhaps by raising the amount of experience you can get, raising the amount you can get from training etc. This would mean ships raced into combat would be at a great disadvantage against those carefully brought up to full battle readiness. It would probably really hurt the AI, though.

Umm... training is of extreme importance as it is. Untrained ships get 40% penalties against trained ships. That is a huge gap to overcome.

tbontob · #3 January 13th, 2003, 03:49 AM

Wanderer

Another part of your posting.....
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Generally though, in real life mothballed ships are put in mothballs prior to being scrapped (the only exception I can think of is the American battleships mothballed then put back into action for the Gulf War), so it's hard to judge how this should be handled.
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The Americans mothballed a number of WWII battleships. Some were used for the VietNam War and as you say in the Gulf war. They would be 50 years old at the time of the Gulf War.

I may be wrong about this, but if the ships were not sealed, I would think they would be too rusted to be unmothballed for the Gulf War.

Could it be that the situation you are describing is of ships being put into reserve and then when they have deteriorated, they are scrapped?

Slynky · #4 January 13th, 2003, 05:05 AM

I guess I've learned a bit about "bending" the rules a bit in this thread. I guess all I knew about was the ability to put more than 100 mines in a sector...learned accidently, of course. Also, I guess that limit can be edited in a file since I've seen the setting.

But now I see the "triple training trick" (planet and 2 moons), the "EB planet trading trick", and something called the TDM weapon cheat.

So, just what is the TDM weapon cheat?

And finally, how likely is one to get a game filled if one spends 100 words on "tactics" not allowed?

tesco samoa · #5 January 13th, 2003, 05:26 AM

right now tdm's do too much damage.

There costly little weapons that used to just do 4x damage to shields and 1x damage to everything else.

right now they do 4x damage to everything.

ALso in reply to this quote eariler
If we do not like it, it is the coding which should be changed.

Never suggest that. Hard Coded changes cannot be modded.

Gozra · #6 January 13th, 2003, 08:06 AM

I have read this thread from stem to stern and I have yet to hear of anything as Gamey. Therefore I am doubling the prize to 20 Galatic Credits. And as for 'mothballing' ships. In space things don't rust. And IN my opinion the build and mothball situation works just fine. The game has a sloution to that problem just limit the amount of ships to around 500.
And it's looking like 'Gamey' is in direct proportion to games played.
And I must point out with the way this game can be modified and the setup choices you have you can make a level playing field for any group of players. ( you may have to play a few games but a fair start can be achieved.) And I strongly suspect that some players are unwilling to do the hard work involved to achieve complete dominance in a game.
(I finshed a game recently in which a player built 3 or more ringworlds just to stay competetive)
BTW I liked the more than 100 accidental mines per sector it really put a risk element into the game. In 1.78 you just have to plan for about 200 mines max. (I miss the old minelaying/minesweeps Baseships)

Maybe we should start a nasty trick thread.

Gryphin · #7 January 13th, 2003, 01:41 PM

Gamey?
Ok, nobody thought "acidentaly on purpose" sending mis information to my advesary or his partner was Gamey.
How about asking his Partner with whom I had a trade agreement with for,
Tech I alwready had in exchange for tech I did not have.
This was via emial not the in game trade system.
It was my hope that this information would get back to his Partner, (my advesary). In theory my advesary would then design his ships on what he eroniously thought I had.
Was this espionage, a waste of email or a Gamey tactic?