New Racial Tech Traits Ideas

[Pax]

Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
How much would someone pay for a trait called Military Strategists?

In the mod, all training facilites are system training, and train at a rate of 1 per turn. The max training is 10% (5 levels, 2 per level). Military Strategists would possibly train at a rate of 2 per turn, with a +2% max training cap. Does 500 points seem too much, too little, or just right for this trait?

Here's another thought: close Fleet Training out from normal races. Give the Strategists their 2%/max10% Ship training .. and 1%/max10% FLEET training.

That'd be worth 500 IMO. Maybe as much as 750.

If you stick with both training types all the time, then 500 cost seems okay for faster training ... though 750 to pay for a cap of 15% (and that 2% per turn) counds intriguing as well.

[Fyron]

Hmm... maybe I could have Master Strategists that does:

max fleet training 15%, 2% per turn

And then Master Tacticians that does:

max ship training 15%, 2% per turn

[Pax]

Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
Hmm... maybe I could have Master Strategists that does:

max fleet training 15%, 2% per turn

And then Master Tacticians that does:

max ship training 15%, 2% per turn

Maybe 350 apiece for those. 400, tops. 8)

[Fyron]

Wait... max normal Fleet Training Facility is 5%...

I need an idea for a good tech name for the Master Strategists. Advanced Strategies sounds kinda lame.

[ January 19, 2003, 22:45: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]

[Fyron]

Unless someone gives me any better ideas, I am going to go with:

Advanced Strategic Planning

Advanced Tactical Manuevers

[Ed Kolis]

{looks at Stars! and MOO2 for inspiration}

Hyper-Expansionists - Gets a modified colony ship hull that can carry 7 engines (fastest thing in space!), and cheaper colony components; enhanced population growth facilities (like Organic)

Stealth Masters - alternate cloaking devices which cost less research and resources; stealth armor that provides level 2 and 3 cloaking; modified base hulls with level 1 built-in Active-EM cloak

Warlords - muchos advanced weapons and big ships!!! also a maintenance reducing facility like the Crystalline Restructuring Plant, and training facilities... this one should be expensive! (since I combined Stars! "War Mongers" with MOO2's "Warlord")

Inner Strength - better armor, shields, repair, minesweepers

Space Demolitionists - hyper-advanced mines & warheads; mines get built-in long range scanners/anticloak scanners

Interstellar Traveller - cheaper open/close warp points components; open/close warp points facilities (if such things are possible); enhanced supply components & cheaper resupply depots

Space Miners - greatly enhanced remote mining (such that it's more profitable to remote mine than to mine normally)

Master Spies - better intel facilities/ops, small ships get built-in scanner and/or cloak

Ramscoop Engines - can build Ramscoop engines, which move very slow but use no supply

Recyclers - gets advanced recycling facilities right off the bat

Alchemists - gets resource converters right off the bat

Bleeding Edge Technology - would require duplicates of ALL other techs, but it would be cool - new techs initially cost double, but they
improve faster

Cybernetic – Better repair components; healing armor

[Baron Munchausen]

Actually, I prefer that technology not be allocated as a rigid racial 'trait' that no one else can possibly understand. It's completely illogical and unrealistic. If research can be designed differently for SE V we could have different areas of research needing different kinds of research points, sort of like components need various amounts of the three basic resources. Then races/species could have different aptitudes for different kinds of research just as they do for different types of resource production. If you are an 'Organic Technology' race your aptititude in Organic Manipulation research could be ten times better than a race which is not of that type. BUT... it would still be possible for a non-specialized race to research the technology. Which is only reasonable.

Now, considering the question more literally, I do have some ideas for more interesting 'racial traits' in SE V, and some changes for the existing traits...

Emotionless should include immunity to Ship Insurrection and Puppet Political Parties if it doesn't already. How do you 'incite' an emotionless people to rebellion?

Mechanoids should be immune to special Psychic weapons -- Mental Flailer and Allegiance Converter. If they are machines, how does a "psychic" attack affect them?

Hardy Industrialists should be able to build ships at any planet without a special space yard. The slight increase in production speed is a joke for 1000 points.

New Traits:

*'Non-respiratory' : This is a race that does not need to breathe, like Silicoids in MOO, and so treats all atmospheres the same -- even None! They would thrive the same in allatmospheres. Other planet conditions (like gravity or radiation) could still affect them, though. Should probably be as expensive as "Emotionless" since it's another sort of immunity.

* "Xenophobe" : Races that are "Xenophobes" would have very limited diplomacy options due to extreme hatred/fear of anyone not like themselves, but would get some racial points back to use elsewhere. (Sergetti for example)

* 'Anarchist' racial trait -- ability to do without "Seat of Government" (assuming this is implemented in SE V!) and not suffer the usual penalties. (XiChung? Norak because of religious trait?)

* 'Fragile' : A race that is so physically delicate that it cannot engage in ground combat at all. Not able to use troops, and no militia appear to defend planets when invaded. If enemy can land troops on the planet, invasion is automatically successful. Returns lots of racial points to be used on something else. (The Amon Krie are good candidates for this. How do worms operate battlemechs?)

* 'Resistant to Infiltration' - Several types of races are considered to be 'naturally' resistant to infiltration. A single specific trait should be created for this. Then, a psychic race or a 'hive-mind' race that should be hard to use any sort of intel projects against can choose it and have better 'thematic' consistency.

Or perhaps this could be implemented as a feature of some other racial traits, like 'Hive Mind' and/or 'Psychic'.

[ January 20, 2003, 03:37: Message edited by: Baron Munchausen ]