OT: Do Not Buy Alert

[Atrocities]

I installed the game on my other PC, the one that seldom if ever works, and it seems to work fine with minor slow downs. The problem is the PC won't run for more than an hour before making odd silonoid clicking sounds and locking up. (Heat issue I think.)

I may upgrade my ram on this PC, it is SDRam, and not DDR Ram like my other AMD. I can up the SDRam to over a gig, and that should help. Too bad I can not convert it to DDR Ram.

The point is, the game seems to like memory, and lots of it.

[ January 26, 2003, 07:19: Message edited by: Atrocities ]

[Instar]

Yeah, I can understand that, there is a TON of data that needs stored and rapidly recalled
Video RAM especially, Ill bet. All of those 3d rendered buildings is hard to keep updated.
My PC has 5 fans in it, so I dont worry about heat too much. May eventually OC the whole rig, but I dont think I will anytime soon

[Dobian]

Originally posted by Instar:
well, I am a serious hardcore SimCity fanatic, so I had to buy it first day. if you can wait, well, that is cool (I usually don't buy games the first day, but for me SC4 is different)

Do you play other city building games? I have SC3K, but don't play it anymore. It was fun for awhile, but gets repetitive. For my money, the best city builders are the Impressions city building games (Caesar 3, Pharaoh, Cleopara, Zeus, Poseidon...and Emperor - which I haven't played yet). These games are great because they're strategy games and not just sims. Every building has a purpose and isn't just window dressing, and you really have to put a lot of thought into the design and layout of you city. Same with the people in your city - they're actually doing something that impacts the game. The trade and commerce model in these games is terrific, and I find them to be really challenging most of the time.

[Baron Munchausen]

Aha! Here you've hit on my pet peeve. We have 'simulations' and we have 'strategy games' and there's not much cross-over. Do any of those 'ruler' series feature actual opponents? I played Ceasar 2 once and though you had to fight the locals to conquer a province there was no organized opposition. That's why I am hoping SE V will move in the direction of 'simulation' by adding lots of environment details (planet features like gravity, radiation levels, etc. More detailed racial characteristics that are retained when conquered. Stars with varying levels of output, etc.)

SimCity is nice but gets boring because there's no possibility of conflict. 4X games are designed for war and nothing else, which also gets boring. The design of MOO 3 was leaning towards simulation but Emrich did it wrong (not allowing the player to control things) and they had to revamp it. I'm anxious to see how much of the 'simulation' aspect has been preserved.

[Dobian]

Originally posted by Baron Munchausen:
Aha! Here you've hit on my pet peeve. We have 'simulations' and we have 'strategy games' and there's not much cross-over. Do any of those 'ruler' series feature actual opponents?

No opponsents in these games - just the occasional invader. But the strategy is in making the city function, attracting new citizens, and growing. Underproduce a certain food item, for example, and your housing starts to devolve. What about the Stronghold series? I haven't played it, but it appears to have a nice balance between building and conquest. I've also heard that Stonghold: Crusader is beter than the original.

[minipol]

It reminds me of Daggerfall. I haven't play such a buggy game since. It was awefull. Luckily, it's succesor didn't have as much bugs and as playable out of the box.
I find it hard to resist buying a game when it first comes out especially if it's the next in a series you are a long time fan of.
But it's something one shouldn't do.

[Instar]

Well, you, the mayor, can be the opponent of the city if you want, you can literally drive a massive robot through the city, or drive a tornado too.
Its fun.