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January 26th, 2003, 04:32 PM
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Re: weapon platforms, weight ratios and modding questions
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quote: It's a science fiction game with warp points, usable organic based ships, and faster than light travel.
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Actually, there is no FTL in SE4. All engines are sublight engines. Sure, they can go fast (crossing a system in 1 month), but not faster than light speed. totally btw: does anyone know how big our solar system is approximately? I mean in light hours
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January 26th, 2003, 04:43 PM
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Re: weapon platforms, weight ratios and modding questions
[quote]Originally posted by Rollo:
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totally btw: does anyone know how big our solar system is approximately? I mean in light hours
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I heard once that the heliopause, that is the point where solar wind particles become so thin as to be indistiguisable from the usual particle density of "empty space" coused by other stars, is 2 light years. The ort cloud/Kuliper(?sp) belt orbits here, but the suns gravitational attraction is very weak here.
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January 26th, 2003, 06:01 PM
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Re: weapon platforms, weight ratios and modding questions
[quote]Originally posted by Arkcon:
quote: Originally posted by Rollo:
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totally btw: does anyone know how big our solar system is approximately? I mean in light hours
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I heard once that the heliopause, that is the point where solar wind particles become so thin as to be indistiguisable from the usual particle density of "empty space" coused by other stars, is 2 light years. The ort cloud/Kuliper(?sp) belt orbits here, but the suns gravitational attraction is very weak here. hmm, that sounds a little too big, if you ask me. given the fact that proxima centauri (the closest star) is 4 light years away.
anyway, this is way off-topic. I'll do some research and open a new thread.
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January 26th, 2003, 06:07 PM
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Re: weapon platforms, weight ratios and modding questions
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Actually, there is no FTL in SE4.
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Sure there is, warppoints allow you to travel FTL regularly.
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January 26th, 2003, 06:38 PM
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Two light-years is much too big. The two Pioneer spacecraft are expected to hit the heliopause sometime in the next decade and they are only moving at something like 25,000 miles per hour. If there really is an 'Oort cloud' out there, though, it will be 1 light-year or more distant.
So it really depends on how you want to define the 'limits' of the solar system. What practical use is the Oort cloud? What effect does it have in the game? (Assuming all stars have one...) Not much unless we allow it to be 'harvested' somehow or other.
Using the orbital domain of planets seems much more practical for the purpose of the game. If you use the orbit of Pluto as the 'limits' of the solar system you get a much smaller area. Pluto is anywhere from 4 to 6 'light-hours' from the sun (it has a highly eccentric orbit). Even with the larger distance light can cover the 'entire' width of the solar system in only 12 hours.  Assuming that our solar system is fairly average, SE IV ships only need to travel at about 1/60th of the speed of light (less than 2 percent!) to be able to cross the solar system in one month. 300,000 km/sec divided by 60 is about 5,000 km/sec or 3,100 miles per second. Still quit a clip. Out fastest spacecraft to date only do about 7 or 8 miles per second.
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January 26th, 2003, 07:19 PM
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Re: weapon platforms, weight ratios and modding questions
Baron, I basically agree with you. I have opened a new topic on this, btw. http://www.shrapnelgames.com/cgi-bin...;f=23;t=008034
My calculation comes out to be twice the speed of yours: 1/30 of the speed of light, since I assumed a system to be twice at large (1 light day). Since there are some objects beyond Pluto (remote mining the Kuiper belt?) and I am not sure that our system is indeed average, I doubled the size to be sure  .
Rollo
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January 26th, 2003, 08:50 PM
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Re: weapon platforms, weight ratios and modding questions
Geez. I'd just like to apologize to Graeme Dice, whose name suffered an unfortunate accident in my Last post on this thread. Hope there's no hard feelings.
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