Protectorates and trade/resupply?

Arkcon · #1 January 29th, 2003, 03:22 PM

Protectorate and subjugation do not allow resupply. In fact, your ships path to avoid each other as if you were enemys. Combat does not result from occuping the same sector, you ships just don't want to. Never checked if planets blockaded each other.

You can remember this by noting, the Subjugation and Protectorate treatys are drawn in yellow, like non-agression. Not green like trade or above, or red like non-intercourse or war.

Ed Kolis · #2 January 29th, 2003, 03:30 PM

But it still makes sense that you should be able to supply at your vassal state's depots, doesn't it?

couslee · #3 January 29th, 2003, 03:35 PM

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Originally posted by Ed Kolis:
But it still makes sense that you should be able to supply at your vassal state's depots, doesn't it?

Not really. they are already paying you a tribute. get gas at your own world, or BUY some here. since the game don't have a "buy supplies" option, you go home.

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Fyron · #4 January 29th, 2003, 09:38 PM

It would only make sense to be able to resupply at their worlds.

Arkcon · #5 January 29th, 2003, 09:40 PM

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Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
It would only make sense to be able to resupply at their worlds.

MM wanted to make it unfair to both ... this is hardly a friendly treaty. There are just levels of accord between empires:
War, Nonintercourse, Nonagression, Subjugation, Protectorate, Trade, Trade and research ...you know the rest -- with incremental benefits.

Don't think of protectorate as "We want to help you flourish" think of it as "So Brigadier, you got lots of nice planets here. Be a shame if something ... happened to them"

[ January 29, 2003, 19:48: Message edited by: Arkcon ]

Arkcon · #6 January 29th, 2003, 09:43 PM

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Originally posted by mottlee:
Has ANY one had the AI agree to any of these?? I have not

Many patches back, I got a neutral to agree to it. Lately, I just take over a neutral or rebel to see what it does. You're supposed to automatically get tech and ship designs -- but that never happens. I don't think it's a bug, I think MM took it out because it's too exploitative.

Phoenix-D · #7 January 29th, 2003, 11:13 PM

"protectorate and submissive(?)... those two treaties,
the weaker one pays the powerhouse a duty for their protection (when done right). there is trade going on with those, but it is one sided."

I think with these treaties it isn't trade. It's tarrif.

The difference is trade is generated for free, tarrif you have to pay for. The effect on the dominant end is the same, but the subjagated empire looses resources for being in this treaty.

Phoenix-D