Weapons, engines and mods, Oh my!

[spoon]

Originally posted by Phoenix-D:
missiles: 25kt seems too drastic. I'd make them 40kt and a lot cheaper"

Consider that point-defense cannons are 20kt and can fire every turn, where missiles can only fire every three turns..and often get shot once or twice on the way in.

Phoenix-D

The "a lot cheaper" part covers that, since you can make more missile ships. On a pure ship-to-ship ratio, that makes it so a "pd" ship would have twice as many pd's than there are missiles, which seems about right to me.

[Fyron]

Originally posted by Baron Munchausen:

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Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
Technically, combat sensors are unaffected by storms. The ships just get a penalty to hit.

Seekers are the only weapons that can be unaffected by storms.

Urk? I think the assumption is that even when you don't have a CS component in the ship there are combat sensors of some sort involved. The ability is named 'Sector - Sensor Interference' after all.

Explain to me how seekers are affected by storms?

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Ships only have combat sensors if they have a Combat Sensor component on them. You wouldn't say that a WWI biplane had radar on it, would you? It can still track things by sight and fire upon them. A SE4 ship without combat sensors can still fire at and hit targets, just not as well.

[Baron Munchausen]

Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
Ships only have combat sensors if they have a Combat Sensor component on them. You wouldn't say that a WWI biplane had radar on it, would you? It can still track things by sight and fire upon them. A SE4 ship without combat sensors can still fire at and hit targets, just not as well.

No I would not say that a plane has radar if it does not. But radar is only one specific kind of sensor. A plane without radar, a biplane if you will, DOES have combat sensors. They are called eyes. The pilot is the combat sensor system. Similarly, even a primitive space ship will have some means of detecting where the enemy is and firing on them. Maybe it will be radar, maybe it will be some sort of visual system. That's their combat sensors. The component just represents stages of increasingly more advanced sensors.

[ February 01, 2003, 15:35: Message edited by: Baron Munchausen ]

[couslee]

I am half blind anyway, can I obtain and install "advanced eyes"?

[Fyron]

Originally posted by Baron Munchausen:
No I would not say that a plane has radar if it does not. But radar is only one specific kind of sensor. A plane without radar, a biplane if you will, DOES have combat sensors. They are called eyes. The pilot is the combat sensor system. Similarly, even a primitive space ship will have some means of detecting where the enemy is and firing on them. Maybe it will be radar, maybe it will be some sort of visual system. That's their combat sensors. The component just represents stages of increasingly more advanced sensors.

I did say the biplane tracked things by eyes.

Combat sensors represent sensors specifically designed for use in combat. If a ship has no combat sensor component, it does not have sensors specifically designed for combat, or combat sensors, if you will.

[Baron Munchausen]

There is no 'computer' component in a ship either unless you add the MC. So you would say that ships in SE don't have computers? Are all the races in SE instinctive pilots and navigators? (Not to mention marksmen.. err, marks-creatures?)

If it didn't have combat sensors it wouldn't be able to hit anything. You are playng semantic games.

[Fyron]

Of course they have computers. There is no "computer" component. They just don't have a Master Computer unless they have one of those components on them.